You really need to research the origin of Christmas. Here is a poem which summarizes it.

Christmas time for many
is the best time of the year.
A time to bond with family
for gift giving and cheer.
But if you did some research
of how it originated,
you’d ask yourself, “Is it proper
for true Christians to celebrate it?”

You can ask any Christian,
anyone on the Earth
What December 25th is and
they’ll say, “Christ Jesus’ birth”.
Was Jesus really born in December?
According to the Bible, he wasn’t.
Does Christmas come from true Christians?
No, it surely doesn’t.

The Jewish month of Chislev
or our November/December,
was not pleasant in Bethlehem .
It had cold and rainy weather.
The Bible writer Ezra confirmed
that when cold Chislev came,
people were “shivering on account
of the showers of rain”. (Ezra 10:9, 13)
Jeremiah also wrote
that when this month arrived,
people said it was so cold
you couldn’t “stand outside”! (Jeremiah 36:22)
So if he was born in December
and conditions were so poor,
why would shepherds on this night
be “living out of doors”? (Luke 2:8-12)

Well where does Christmas come from?
I surely have to tell ‘ya.
It’s from an ancient festival
whose name was Saturnalia.
During this pagan party,
people exchanged gifts.
Its date was very familiar.
December 25th.

This date was someone’s birthday:
Tammuz was his name.
It was a festival that would
give all of us great shame.
They used the tall green Christmas tree
and wreaths were all around
to represent phallus
as researchers have found.
The mistletoe had powers
they put it into use
it was to promote fertility,
the first step to reproduce!
The ornaments you’ve come to know
they made their use of these
Except for round glass globes they used
human heads on trees!

If this were Christ’s true birthday
and he was really for it
wouldn’t he tell us to do it?
Wouldn’t he support it?
So think about this info
and read the Bible through
then take a moment and ask yourself:
“What would Jesus do?”

You really need to research the origin of Christmas. Here is a poem which summarizes it.

Christmas time for many
is the best time of the year.
A time to bond with family
for gift giving and cheer.
But if you did some research
of how it originated,
you’d ask yourself, “Is it proper
for true Christians to celebrate it?”

You can ask any Christian,
anyone on the Earth
What December 25th is and
they’ll say, “Christ Jesus’ birth”.
Was Jesus really born in December?
According to the Bible, he wasn’t.
Does Christmas come from true Christians?
No, it surely doesn’t.

The Jewish month of Chislev
or our November/December,
was not pleasant in Bethlehem .
It had cold and rainy weather.
The Bible writer Ezra confirmed
that when cold Chislev came,
people were “shivering on account
of the showers of rain”. (Ezra 10:9, 13)
Jeremiah also wrote
that when this month arrived,
people said it was so cold
you couldn’t “stand outside”! (Jeremiah 36:22)
So if he was born in December
and conditions were so poor,
why would shepherds on this night
be “living out of doors”? (Luke 2:8-12)

Well where does Christmas come from?
I surely have to tell ‘ya.
It’s from an ancient festival
whose name was Saturnalia.
During this pagan party,
people exchanged gifts.
Its date was very familiar.
December 25th.

This date was someone’s birthday:
Tammuz was his name.
It was a festival that would
give all of us great shame.
They used the tall green Christmas tree
and wreaths were all around
to represent phallus
as researchers have found.
The mistletoe had powers
they put it into use
it was to promote fertility,
the first step to reproduce!
The ornaments you’ve come to know
they made their use of these
Except for round glass globes they used
human heads on trees!

If this were Christ’s true birthday
and he was really for it
wouldn’t he tell us to do it?
Wouldn’t he support it?
So think about this info
and read the Bible through
then take a moment and ask yourself:
“What would Jesus do?”

I wholeheartedly agree that Jesus wasn’t born on December 25. The debate is whether to celebrate his birth even if the date is not sure. It is still a debate. I choose to celebrate, nobody knows the exact date anyway. In the first place nothing in the Bible prohibits the celebration.

I wholeheartedly agree that Jesus wasn’t born on December 25. The debate is whether to celebrate his birth even if the date is not sure. It is still a debate. I choose to celebrate, nobody knows the exact date anyway. In the first place nothing in the Bible prohibits the celebration.

Hello brother,

Jesus never commanded Christians to celebrate his birth. Rather, he told his disciples to memorialize, or remember, his death. (Luke 22:19, 20) Christmas and its customs come from ancient false religions and pagan traditions. The same is true of Easter customs, such as the use of eggs and rabbits. The early Christians did not celebrate Christmas or Easter, nor do TRUE Christians today.

Does the Bible Discourage
Feasting and the Giving of Gifts?

The Giving of Gifts – The Bible approves of the giving of presents, God himself being called the Giver of “every good gift and every perfect present.” (James 1:17) Jesus indicated that good parents would give gifts to their children. (Luke 11:11-13) JobÂ’s friends and family members gave Job gifts when he recovered his health. (Job 42:11) None of such giving, however, required specific feast days. It stemmed from the heart.—2 Corinthians 9:7.

Family Gatherings – Family gatherings can do much to unite family members, especially if they no longer live in the same house. Jesus and his disciples attended a wedding feast in Cana, doubtless a large gathering of family and friends. (John 2:1-10) And in JesusÂ’ illustration of the prodigal son, the father celebrated his sonÂ’s return with a family banquet, which included music and dancing.—Luke 15:21-25.

Enjoying a Good Meal – The Bible frequently speaks of GodÂ’s servants as enjoying good food with family, friends, or fellow worshipers. When three angels visited Abraham, he prepared a feast for them that included beef, milk, butter, and round cakes. (Genesis 18:6-8) Solomon described ‘eating, drinking, and rejoicingÂ’ as a gift from God.—Ecclesiastes 3:13; 8:15.

Clearly, God wants us to enjoy good food in the company of friends and family, and he approves of the giving of gifts. We have ample opportunity to do that at any time throughout the year and not only at Christmas time or whenever an occassion occurs.

The only two birthday celebrations spoken of in the Bible were held by persons who did not worship God. (Genesis 40:20-22; Mark 6:21, 22, 24-27) The early Christians did not celebrate birthdays. The custom of celebrating birthdays comes from ancient false religions. True Christians give gifts and have good times together at other times during the year.

Thanks for giving me the time to reply on your site.

Hello brother,

Jesus never commanded Christians to celebrate his birth. Rather, he told his disciples to memorialize, or remember, his death. (Luke 22:19, 20) Christmas and its customs come from ancient false religions and pagan traditions. The same is true of Easter customs, such as the use of eggs and rabbits. The early Christians did not celebrate Christmas or Easter, nor do TRUE Christians today.

Does the Bible Discourage
Feasting and the Giving of Gifts?

The Giving of Gifts – The Bible approves of the giving of presents, God himself being called the Giver of “every good gift and every perfect present.” (James 1:17) Jesus indicated that good parents would give gifts to their children. (Luke 11:11-13) Job’s friends and family members gave Job gifts when he recovered his health. (Job 42:11) None of such giving, however, required specific feast days. It stemmed from the heart.—2 Corinthians 9:7.

Family Gatherings – Family gatherings can do much to unite family members, especially if they no longer live in the same house. Jesus and his disciples attended a wedding feast in Cana, doubtless a large gathering of family and friends. (John 2:1-10) And in Jesus’ illustration of the prodigal son, the father celebrated his son’s return with a family banquet, which included music and dancing.—Luke 15:21-25.

Enjoying a Good Meal – The Bible frequently speaks of God’s servants as enjoying good food with family, friends, or fellow worshipers. When three angels visited Abraham, he prepared a feast for them that included beef, milk, butter, and round cakes. (Genesis 18:6-8) Solomon described ‘eating, drinking, and rejoicing’ as a gift from God.—Ecclesiastes 3:13; 8:15.

Clearly, God wants us to enjoy good food in the company of friends and family, and he approves of the giving of gifts. We have ample opportunity to do that at any time throughout the year and not only at Christmas time or whenever an occassion occurs.

The only two birthday celebrations spoken of in the Bible were held by persons who did not worship God. (Genesis 40:20-22; Mark 6:21, 22, 24-27) The early Christians did not celebrate birthdays. The custom of celebrating birthdays comes from ancient false religions. True Christians give gifts and have good times together at other times during the year.

Thanks for giving me the time to reply on your site.

Hi,

I appreciate your opinion. Let me just say though that while Jesus never asks us to celebrate his birthday, neither did he prohibit it. And when the Bible is silent, there’s should be no room for dogmatism and legalism.

Hi,

I appreciate your opinion. Let me just say though that while Jesus never asks us to celebrate his birthday, neither did he prohibit it. And when the Bible is silent, there’s should be no room for dogmatism and legalism.

Jesus did not prohibit celebrating his birthday, but if we know where it had originated, would we want to do it anyway? Do origins really matter? yes, to illustrate: suppose you saw a piece of candy lying in the gutter. Would you pick up that candy and eat it? Of course not! That candy is unclean. Like that candy, the holidays may seem sweet, but they have been picked up from unclean places. (Paganism, false religions) Would Jesus have approved of it?
As apostle Paul wrote: “Keep on making sure of what is acceptable to the Lord.” – Ephesians 5:10
As the prophet Isaiah told TRUE worshippers: “Touch nothing unclean.” – Isaiah 52:11
Satan has truly blinded people.

Jesus did not prohibit celebrating his birthday, but if we know where it had originated, would we want to do it anyway? Do origins really matter? yes, to illustrate: suppose you saw a piece of candy lying in the gutter. Would you pick up that candy and eat it? Of course not! That candy is unclean. Like that candy, the holidays may seem sweet, but they have been picked up from unclean places. (Paganism, false religions) Would Jesus have approved of it?
As apostle Paul wrote: “Keep on making sure of what is acceptable to the Lord.” – Ephesians 5:10
As the prophet Isaiah told TRUE worshippers: “Touch nothing unclean.” – Isaiah 52:11
Satan has truly blinded people.

One question: do you know where the custom of “shaking hands” come from?

One question: do you know where the custom of “shaking hands” come from?

Actually, let me answer that and cut the chase. There are a lot of ancient pagan practices that our modern society has adopted — knowingly or unknowingly.

For instance, the practice of “hand shaking” is an ancient pagan practice done when two people wants to say “I’m passing on to you the power of *this* god”.

Now, hand-shaking is a common practice today. But this time around, we’re not doing it for the same purpose as the pagans of old. Instead we do it to greet people, to introduce one’s self and is generally a wonderful practice.

The same is true with Christmas. In the time of Constantine after his conversion to Christianity, he wanted his constituents to worship Jesus instead of the pagan sun god on December 25th, thus the start of the Christmas tradition. We DO NOT commemorate some god’s birthday, instead we celebrate Jesus’. If there’s anything wrong with that, I’d say, stop shaking people’s hands. :D

Actually, let me answer that and cut the chase. There are a lot of ancient pagan practices that our modern society has adopted — knowingly or unknowingly.

For instance, the practice of “hand shaking” is an ancient pagan practice done when two people wants to say “I’m passing on to you the power of *this* god”.

Now, hand-shaking is a common practice today. But this time around, we’re not doing it for the same purpose as the pagans of old. Instead we do it to greet people, to introduce one’s self and is generally a wonderful practice.

The same is true with Christmas. In the time of Constantine after his conversion to Christianity, he wanted his constituents to worship Jesus instead of the pagan sun god on December 25th, thus the start of the Christmas tradition. We DO NOT commemorate some god’s birthday, instead we celebrate Jesus’. If there’s anything wrong with that, I’d say, stop shaking people’s hands. :D

Hello brother,
May I ask where you got your reference for the definition of the origin of handshaking as an old pagan practice which means passing on the power of this “god”?

Hello brother,
May I ask where you got your reference for the definition of the origin of handshaking as an old pagan practice which means passing on the power of this “god”?

This was a result of a research I made when I was in college. As a backgrounder, I came from a Christian tradition where people are split whether Christmas should be observed or not. I can vividly remember a sermon by a pastor named Gideon Durante which inspired me to do that research. That’s where the “Handshake pagan practice” illustration came from.

Of course, you don’t expect me to quote from memory something that I did 15 years ago, do you? :D You may, or may not believe me, but there is a reference for that.

Some (unreliable) references from the web:

http://mmothra.blogspot.com/2005_03_01_archive.html
The” hands joined” or “handshake” was depicted on the Numa altar to Fides under which name the goddess of oaths and honesty was worshiped.

http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?nav=printDiscussion&webtag=ab-judaism&tid=10966
Mithras was worshipped as guardian of arms, and patron of soldiers and armies.

The handshake was developed by those who worshipped him as a token of friendship and as a gesture to show that you were unarmed.

This was a result of a research I made when I was in college. As a backgrounder, I came from a Christian tradition where people are split whether Christmas should be observed or not. I can vividly remember a sermon by a pastor named Gideon Durante which inspired me to do that research. That’s where the “Handshake pagan practice” illustration came from.

Of course, you don’t expect me to quote from memory something that I did 15 years ago, do you? :D You may, or may not believe me, but there is a reference for that.

Some (unreliable) references from the web:

http://mmothra.blogspot.com/2005_03_01_archive.html
The” hands joined” or “handshake” was depicted on the Numa altar to Fides under which name the goddess of oaths and honesty was worshiped.

http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?nav=printDiscussion&webtag=ab-judaism&tid=10966
Mithras was worshipped as guardian of arms, and patron of soldiers and armies.

The handshake was developed by those who worshipped him as a token of friendship and as a gesture to show that you were unarmed.

The origin of the handshake was even before this god Mithra, in fact, the handshake gesture was imported throughout the Mediterranean and Europe by Roman soldiers, it never had origins from pagans. Handshakes originated as a gesture showing that the hand holds no weapon.
Again brother, thank you for the time on your site. Do not be blinded by Satan who is ruling this world. As TRUE CHRISTIANS – “Keep on making sure of what is acceptable to the Lord.” – Ephesians 5:10 and “Touch nothing unclean.” – Isaiah 52:11

The origin of the handshake was even before this god Mithra, in fact, the handshake gesture was imported throughout the Mediterranean and Europe by Roman soldiers, it never had origins from pagans. Handshakes originated as a gesture showing that the hand holds no weapon.
Again brother, thank you for the time on your site. Do not be blinded by Satan who is ruling this world. As TRUE CHRISTIANS – “Keep on making sure of what is acceptable to the Lord.” – Ephesians 5:10 and “Touch nothing unclean.” – Isaiah 52:11

I think that the Incarnation of God into this world is something that should be celebrated – regardless of the date. It marks the beginning of God physically joining humanity and elevating it back to Himself.

As for the pagan origins, it is true that when the church achieved power, many pagan practices were “christianized” to accomodate or transition Romans into Christianity. It is unfortunate but I believe that God can overcome and transform these as long as we keep our focus on Him. There is a myth that goes through pagan beliefs of a “dying god”, and I believe these foreshadow Christ. One can also look at the example of the Magi, they were most probably astrologists, people who practiced an art that was not sanctioned by God, yet God showed the birth of His Son to them as well.

If we are to touch nothing unclean then we should be so far from who Christ is, His whole life was spent touching and healing all of us who are unclean. The Incarnation is God Himself making a home among people who are unclean. May I present the truth that Jesus is the fullest reveation of God (read the beginning of Hebrews)and we should orient ourselves to see the Bible in this light?

I think that the Incarnation of God into this world is something that should be celebrated – regardless of the date. It marks the beginning of God physically joining humanity and elevating it back to Himself.

As for the pagan origins, it is true that when the church achieved power, many pagan practices were “christianized” to accomodate or transition Romans into Christianity. It is unfortunate but I believe that God can overcome and transform these as long as we keep our focus on Him. There is a myth that goes through pagan beliefs of a “dying god”, and I believe these foreshadow Christ. One can also look at the example of the Magi, they were most probably astrologists, people who practiced an art that was not sanctioned by God, yet God showed the birth of His Son to them as well.

If we are to touch nothing unclean then we should be so far from who Christ is, His whole life was spent touching and healing all of us who are unclean. The Incarnation is God Himself making a home among people who are unclean. May I present the truth that Jesus is the fullest reveation of God (read the beginning of Hebrews)and we should orient ourselves to see the Bible in this light?