“The Pope is NOT 666″ – SDA professor

Posted: April 24th, 2006 | Author: | Filed under: Theology | View Comments

There’s a growing popular view among Adventist scholars that disowns the traditional Seventh-day Adventist interpretation of the Roman Catholic Pope being the 666 described in Revelation 13. One of them is Samuele Bacchiocchi, Ph. D., Retired Professor of Theology and Church History, Andrews University.

(Of course, as expected, the “new interpretation” did not depart from the Sabbath being the center of the “Great Controversy”. Note to my readers: I do not support even this “new interpretation”)

So, for the sake of those who still thinks and holds to the traditional “Vicarius Filli Dei” interpretation of 666, listen to your own. Here’s Dr. Bac’s 20 points why the Adventist traditional interpretation of 666 is incorrect as originally printed in his newsletter.

1) The Adventist pioneers early identified the Mark of the Beast with the enforcement of Sunday observance, but they were uncertain regarding the meaning of the Number of the Beast (666).

2) Initially, some Adventist pioneers, including J. N. Andrews, believed that the number 666 of the Beast was made up of approximately 666 Protestant sects who had accepted the authority and teachings of the Catholic Church.

3) Uriah Smith appears to have been the first Adventist leader to mention Vicarius Filii Dei as a possible interpretation of the number 666. His proposal first appears in an editorial published in The Review and Herald issue of November 20, 1866.

4) Eventually Uriah Smith’s interpretation became widely accepted due to the influence of his books Daniel and the Revelation and The United States in the Light of Prophecy.

5) The sources cited by Uriah Smith to support his identification of the number 666 with the pope’s title Vicarius Filii Dei, are the accounts of two eyewitnesses who claimed to have seen the inscription on the pope’s tiara while in Rome. One claimed to have seen the inscribed papal tiara in the Vatican Museum and the other witness during an Easter Mass celebrations. Both accounts are discredited by the fact that papal tiaras are not displayed in the Vatican Museum, nor does the pope wear the tiara for Mass celebrations. The three crowns gold Tiara has been used primarily for the coronation of the pope—a practice that has been discontinued by the latest three popes, John Paul I, John Paul II, and Benedict XVI.

6) A significant search for inscribed papal tiara was conducted in 1905 by Chas T. Everson, an Adventist missionary serving in Italy. At the request of several church leaders, especially Prof. William Prescott, a leading Adventist educator, Everson conducted a thorough investigation that providentially led him into the very dressing room of the pope, where some tiaras are kept.

In spite of his unique opportunity to view several tiaras at close range, Everson was disappointed in not finding the inscription Vicarius Filii Dei on any of them. He wrote: “But while we were pleased to see brilliant crowns, yet we were disappointed in not finding the object of our search; for the inscription Vicarius Filii Dei was nowhere to be found inscribed upon the tiara, as the accompanying photographs show very plainly.” He concludes his report, saying: “to be perfectly correct in our statements, we cannot say that there is an inscription of this nature on the tiara at present” (Advent Review and Sabbath Herald, July 27, 1905, p. 10).

7) One of the stunning pictures of the papal tiara sent by Everson to the General conference, was modified by an Adventist artist who added the words Vicarius Filii Dei to the golden tiara. The Southern Publishing Association used this “doctored” picture of the tiara in the revised edition of Uriah Smith’s Daniel and the Revelation. When confronted with the incriminating evidence, the General Conference gave immediate orders to stop the printing any further copies of the book, until the fraudulent pictures were removed.

8) Prescott requested an opportunity to make a presentation to the General Conference officers. Some of the officers were convinced by Prescott’s arguments, but others thought that the issue needed further study. At any rate, they all agreed that in the meantime “the interpretation should not be repeated.”

9) This episode was soon forgotten. Vicarius Filii Dei was a too neat fit to Revelation 13:18 to be easily abandoned, so it continued to be a popular interpretation, in spite of the action taken by the General Conference.

10) In 1935 Francis Nichols, editor of Present Truth, published an article alleging that Vicarius Filii Dei was the pope’s official title, inscribed in the papal tiara. As soon as the artitle appeared, the popular Catholic magazine, Our Sunday Visitor, challenged Nichols to produce the evidence or to stop using biased and dishonest anti-Catholic sources to make such claim. Nichols asked Prof. Prescott for help to justify the claim, but the professor responded that there was none.

11) Eventually a special study group was set up by the General Conference chaired by Elder Howell, hoping that some more reliable information might be found on the use of the pope’s title Vicarius Filii Dei. LeRoy Edwin Froom was sent on a special research assignment to the Vatican to seek information on the pope’s title Vicarius Filii Dei, but he found nothing of significance.

12) In 1948, LeRoy Froom, Editor of Ministry, issued a strong warning against the use of fraudulent tiaras in evangelistic meetings. He wrote: “In the name of truth and honesty this journal protests any such use by any member of the Ministerial Association of Seventh-day Adventist denomination (our worker body), of which The Ministry is the official organ. Truth does not need fabrication to aid or suppress it. Its very nature precludes any manipulation or duplicity. We cannot afford to be party to any fraud.” (The Ministry, November 1948, p. 35).

13) The warnings given by the General Conference and by Ministry did not stop the preaching and the writings on the pope’s title Vicarius Filii Dei, allegedly inscribed in the pope’s tiara. The reason was mentioned earlier. Legends that capture popular imagination, never seem to die, no matter how incredible they might be. This gives me reason to believe that no amount of compelling research done by competent and dedicated Adventist scholars, will ever succeed to suppress what has become an Adventist popular interpretation.

14) Recent Adventist studies on the book of Revelation have concluded that the traditional numeric interpretation of the number 666 of the Beast, lacks both exegetically and historical support. Thus, they have proposed a symbolic interpretation of the number 666 on the basis of exegetical and historical considerations.

15) The Seventh-day Adventist Church at large was informed about the new symbolic interpretation of the Number 666 of the Beast by the Sabbath School Lesson of June 1-7, 2002. The lesson dealt specifically with The Mark and Number of the Beast (Rev 13:16-18; 14:1). The principal author of the Sabbath School Quarterly is Angel Rodriguez, Ph. D. He has been serving for several years as the Director of the Biblical Research Institute of the General Conference.

16) Regarding the Number of the Beast, Dr. Rodriguez writes: “The Number of the Beast. The mark, the name, and the number of the beast are closely related (Rev. 13:17). Many suggestions have been made to explain the meaning of 666. Here we must be very careful. The Bible does not say that the number is the added numerical value of the letters of a name. . . . Some see in the meaning of 666 a symbol of humanity separated from God. Humans were created on the sixth day, and the number can stand as a symbol for humanity without divine rest (the seventh day).”

Dr. Rodriguez concludes, saying: “At the present time, the symbolism of intensified rebellion, six used three times, and total independence from God seem to be the best option. Time will reveal the full meaning of the symbol” (Thursday, June 6, 2002).

17). Dr. Rodriguez continues giving three reasons for rejecting the traditional Vicarius Filii Dei interpretation. He writes: “First, it is not clear that this title is an official one.” My research has shown that Vicarius Filii Dei has been used as one of the papal title, but it is not the official title. The reason is that the pope has many titles, not ONE official title. The most common title is Vicarius Christi, which is similar to Vicarius Filii Dei.

18) The second reason Dr. Rodriguez gives is that the phrase “it is a human number” (v. 18), suggests that the number represents “humans separated from God.” This is an important point, ignored by most people, because the KJV inaccurately reads “it is the number of a man” (Rev 13:18). The key phrase in Greek reads “arithmos anthropou” (Rev 13:18), means “human number.” The phrase suggests that it is not the number of a name, but the number representing a human condition of rebellion against God. The triple six suggests a determined effort of the beast to promote the worship of himself, rather than of God.

19) The third reason given by Dr. Rodriguez for rejecting the Vicarius Filii Dei interpretation is that the text does not specify in which language is the numerical value of letters to be counted. He writes: “Third, those who insist in counting the numerical value of letters confront the problem of deciding which language will be used. Because the text does not identify any language, the selection of a particular one will be somewhat arbitrary.” (Friday, June 7, 2002).

This is a decisive observation. It is absurd to assume that the original recipients of Revelation could identify the number 666 with the pope’s title Vicarius Filii Dei. Why? For two reasons. First, this title was unknown in John’s day as it was coined eight centuries later in the forged Donation of Constantine. Second, the Latin language also was largely unknown to John and his Greek-speaking readers. His call for wisdom to understand the number 666 would have been senseless, if the information needed to understand the number was still eight centuries in the future, and if the language of the title was foreign to the recipients of the Revelation.

20) My personal reasons for accepting the symbolic interpretation of the number 666 presented by Dr. Rodriguez in the Sabbath School Lesson, are based on four major considerations:

1. John’s use of numbers in Revelation. This is the key to understand the meaning of numbers in Revelation. Very little attention has been paid in Adventist studies to the symbolic use of numbers, especially in the prophetic books of Daniel and Revelation.

2. The importance of the number 666 in the pagan worship of Babylon and ancient Rome.

3. The symbolic meanings of 666 in the Bible.

4. The relationship between the mark of the beast and the number of the beast.


  • http://none Artaxerxes M. Garcia

    We do not need a Rodriguez to be our sole interpreter of Revelation 13. We don’t need any human brains, such theology bog shots to explain us about the 666,no matter a thousand of them would negate the pope-as-666 notion. We are aware that the jesuit pestilence have been polluting much institutions, manipulating facts, secret terrorists, and we are not far from suspecting that some of them are within the SDA church infecting like cancer in the theological circles… WE SDAs DO UNEQUIVOCABLY, FIRMLY, EASILY, ASSERT AS USUAL, THAT THE POPE OF ROME IS THE 666, THE LITTLE HORN, THE BEAST, THE ANTI CHRIST, FOR THAT IS THE MOST LOGICAL THING TO DO, NO MATTER HOW OUR SCHOLARS MAY ERR IN THEIR INTERPRETATIONS. AND IT DOES NOT NEED MUCH SOPHISTICATED ARGUMENTS TO PROVE THEM.

  • http://none Artaxerxes M. Garcia

    if you people would like to disect me logically as you wish, do so… We SDAs will preach with sincerity, boldness, and with all godliness about this abominable church of Satan, the Harlot of Rome, so as to make her a world-wide disgust and nausea. What church can you find who murdered a lot of people through its shameful inquisition that the Roman-catholic Church? What church can you find who is so arrogant to claim that Jesus is being sacrificed many times in the Mass than this church of Rome? This is Satan himself, for he cannot stop abusing the blood of Christ. This church is the most murderous church that had ever disgraced history, yet I am surprized why even many protestants would pay her homage.. It is because they worship on sunday -the mark of Rome’s authority (an audacious disrespect to God’s mark of universal sovereignty, the Sabbath day).
    Any article negating the forcefulness of the 666-the-pope notion is making excuses; it loves the Harlot in Revelation, it loves the murderous persecuting church, it loves the pope -the devil in disguise..

  • http://www.google.com Artaxerxes M. Garcia

    and if you say I am not in unison with my scholars or with some contradicting members when I say “we”,, I meant it to be those who are traditional Adventists who never turn crooked from their previews interpretation: that the pope is the 666, the little horn, the beast, the anti Christ.. Those Adventists who try to soften these terms by scholarly analysis, such effeminate ecumenical-motivated interpretations are wolves within the fold. I do not fear whether these be our very own scholars. We do not trust their conceits. We have the Witness within our hearts. And we can afford to die for our faith.. You scholars, don’t create troubles confusing our members with your new discoveries. God gave you the brain. If you misuse them it becomes a curse. I am not saying that Rodriguez Bacchiocchi are questionable. What I am stressing is we must hear God within our hearts. When we hear Him we can discern whether scholars are truthful or not. As of the present, we stick to the same interpretation as preached by our pastors.. Simple. When the apostle Paul said, “Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen” he did not defined it doctorally. What’s the need os sophisticated equivocations? We must be plain. Who is the 666, the beast, the little horn, the Harlot in Revelation? Here is the answer: the Roman-catholic institution, the pope, or vise versa.. I am not so careful about this knowning there would be some insecure critic who would dare to disect me logically, that does not bother me. The message is plain. Are you blind? So why keep on blinding your eyes with lying logic? Conviction has eyes which reason cannot see.

  • http://www.google.com Artaxerxes M. Garcia

    and if you say I am not in unison with my scholars or with some contradicting members when I say “we”,, I meant it to be those who are traditional Adventists who never turn crooked from their previews interpretation: that the pope is the 666, the little horn, the beast, the anti Christ.. Those Adventists who try to soften these terms by scholarly analysis, such effeminate ecumenical-motivated interpretations are wolves within the fold. I do not fear whether these be our very own scholars. We do not trust their conceits. We have the Witness within our hearts. And we can afford to die for our faith.. You scholars, don’t create troubles confusing our members with your new discoveries. God gave you the brain. If you misuse them it becomes a curse. I am not saying that Rodriguez Bacchiocchi are questionable. What I am stressing is we must hear God within our hearts. When we hear Him we can discern whether scholars are truthful or not. As of the present, we stick to the same interpretation as preached by our pastors.. Simple. When the apostle Paul said, “Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen” he did not defined it doctorally. What’s the need os sophisticated equivocations? We must be plain. Who is the 666, the beast, the little horn, the Harlot in Revelation? Here is the answer: the Roman-catholic institution, the pope, or vise versa.. I am not so careful about this knowning there would be some insecure critic who would dare to disect me logically, that does not bother me. The message is plain. Are you blind? So why keep on blinding your eyes with lying logic? Conviction has eyes which reason cannot see.

  • http://www.google.com Artaxerxes M. Garcia

    Let me reiterate my formet assertion,, that the pope of Rome is the most pestilent seat of Satan. We SDA, could not and would not preach otherwise than to denounce Roman-catholicism in the face of the whole world, and we do this to offend people that they will stumble and fall and learn in humility that the abominable shameful Roman-catholic church is the most murderous church in earth’s history being predicted in the Bible Daniel 2, 7, 8, Revelation 13, 7, etc. .. You pope, cardinals, and all the rest of you at Rome. If you will not stop your diabolical teachings, infecting the minds of the people, We SDAs will forever hold your institution as possessed by Satan…heretic, brood of vipers, children of the devil, going to hell. Why do you, Roman-catholic priests have the daring to face the world with such shameless audacity after for more than a thousand years your church killed many christians far exceeding the brutality of Hitler? What a Satanic institution you have. Shame on you. You, false blind leaders, are seven fold guilty than your members. We SDAs cannot concede to ecumenical process, to sign a pack with the the churches who are the daughters of that harlot of all churches, this dammable Roman-catholic religion. No. We shall preach the more boldly denouncing at the top of our voices the sinfulness of this church. We would preach, castigate, denounce till death, everything in that false, anti-Christian church.. The Roman-catholic church is a “Romanized” catholic, not originally the pure apostolic Catholic, but a “pagan” catholic. And since you without mercy brutally murdered a lot of people, you will not receive smooth treatments at our hands.. We shall deal with these Romish leaders as if we are dealing with the very Satan himself.. Since our preachings only serve to harden your hearts, we will preach more till you will lose energy to listen… You will not listen to the Bible’s prophecies so plainly stated; you keep on philosophizing it, caviling on some minute, trifling, insignificant nonsense(exaggerating minor points -an idiot’s game), miserably twisting the Vicarius filii Dei as to soften its serious impression, therefore you must not have truth but lies till your hearts and minds will all be darkness so that it will be impossible for you to discern the truth.. Blind and ostinate as you are.

  • http://www.google.com Artaxerxes M. Garcia

    Let me reiterate my formet assertion,, that the pope of Rome is the most pestilent seat of Satan. We SDA, could not and would not preach otherwise than to denounce Roman-catholicism in the face of the whole world, and we do this to offend people that they will stumble and fall and learn in humility that the abominable shameful Roman-catholic church is the most murderous church in earth’s history being predicted in the Bible Daniel 2, 7, 8, Revelation 13, 7, etc. .. You pope, cardinals, and all the rest of you at Rome. If you will not stop your diabolical teachings, infecting the minds of the people, We SDAs will forever hold your institution as possessed by Satan…heretic, brood of vipers, children of the devil, going to hell. Why do you, Roman-catholic priests have the daring to face the world with such shameless audacity after for more than a thousand years your church killed many christians far exceeding the brutality of Hitler? What a Satanic institution you have. Shame on you. You, false blind leaders, are seven fold guilty than your members. We SDAs cannot concede to ecumenical process, to sign a pack with the the churches who are the daughters of that harlot of all churches, this dammable Roman-catholic religion. No. We shall preach the more boldly denouncing at the top of our voices the sinfulness of this church. We would preach, castigate, denounce till death, everything in that false, anti-Christian church.. The Roman-catholic church is a “Romanized” catholic, not originally the pure apostolic Catholic, but a “pagan” catholic. And since you without mercy brutally murdered a lot of people, you will not receive smooth treatments at our hands.. We shall deal with these Romish leaders as if we are dealing with the very Satan himself.. Since our preachings only serve to harden your hearts, we will preach more till you will lose energy to listen… You will not listen to the Bible’s prophecies so plainly stated; you keep on philosophizing it, caviling on some minute, trifling, insignificant nonsense(exaggerating minor points -an idiot’s game), miserably twisting the Vicarius filii Dei as to soften its serious impression, therefore you must not have truth but lies till your hearts and minds will all be darkness so that it will be impossible for you to discern the truth.. Blind and ostinate as you are.

  • http://www.google.com Artaxerxes M. Garcia

    And if the words of Revelation 13, 7, and the other Revelation sources does not refer to the Romish church, to whom does it fit more favorably? To fit it to Ellen white, Seventh-day Adventism, of protestant churches, or Islam IS OBVIOUSLY AWKWARD. But it fits Rome logically… Many people are convinced about this. The depiction of the Bible, in Daniel and Revelation is very accurate to describe the Apostate church. Are you, pope, bishops, cardinals, priests,,blind to this? or you are just closing your eyes. You have no excuse.. Your institution is the one describe by the Bible, yet you will not listen to protestant preachers. Why? because of the blackness of your hearts We can do nothing about you but to leave you to the devil since you refuse to believe the truth about the prophecy in Daniel and Revelation..

  • http://www.google.com Artaxerxes M. Garcia

    And if the words of Revelation 13, 7, and the other Revelation sources does not refer to the Romish church, to whom does it fit more favorably? To fit it to Ellen white, Seventh-day Adventism, of protestant churches, or Islam IS OBVIOUSLY AWKWARD. But it fits Rome logically… Many people are convinced about this. The depiction of the Bible, in Daniel and Revelation is very accurate to describe the Apostate church. Are you, pope, bishops, cardinals, priests,,blind to this? or you are just closing your eyes. You have no excuse.. Your institution is the one describe by the Bible, yet you will not listen to protestant preachers. Why? because of the blackness of your hearts We can do nothing about you but to leave you to the devil since you refuse to believe the truth about the prophecy in Daniel and Revelation..

  • http://www.whatisbetterthanlife.com.ph Arnold

    Mr. Garcia,

    Yeah, we got your point already.

  • http://www.whatisbetterthanlife.com.ph Arnold

    Mr. Garcia,

    Yeah, we got your point already.

  • http://www.google.com Artaxerxes M. Garcia

    Bob Stanley in his website:
    http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/3975/seventh.htm
    Bob shows his untrained convictions and diseased imaginations..He babbles about the accusations of the SDA.. I am even amazed why this Roman-catholic even qouted scriptural passages when in papacy’s persecuting era, his church prohibits Bible reading..
    His website is the very evidence that his church is forever defeated. It it like Caesar when he was assasinated with daggers, would fain fall to the ground covering himself with his robe to die dignified. So with this puerile Roman-catholic “defender” He covers himself with lies, so that he and his Satanic church falls dignified to the ground. We do not need to bother about the Roman-catholic’s weak and feeble defence. At our very eyes they are forever defeated.
    I know,Arnold, that I am far from the “Pope not 666 -SDA Professor” point in this site, in this comment. I just want to express how inflexible we are against this Apostate church. That we are ever ready to denounce this Satanic institution whenever time and oppurtunity arises.

  • http://www.google.com Artaxerxes M. Garcia

    Bob Stanley in his website:
    http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/3975/seventh.htm
    Bob shows his untrained convictions and diseased imaginations..He babbles about the accusations of the SDA.. I am even amazed why this Roman-catholic even qouted scriptural passages when in papacy’s persecuting era, his church prohibits Bible reading..
    His website is the very evidence that his church is forever defeated. It it like Caesar when he was assasinated with daggers, would fain fall to the ground covering himself with his robe to die dignified. So with this puerile Roman-catholic “defender” He covers himself with lies, so that he and his Satanic church falls dignified to the ground. We do not need to bother about the Roman-catholic’s weak and feeble defence. At our very eyes they are forever defeated.
    I know,Arnold, that I am far from the “Pope not 666 -SDA Professor” point in this site, in this comment. I just want to express how inflexible we are against this Apostate church. That we are ever ready to denounce this Satanic institution whenever time and oppurtunity arises.

  • http://www.google.com Artaxerxes M. Garcia

    take a look at this effeminate site:
    http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/3975/sda.htm
    I see nothing there but emptiness. It is sheer weakness and brainlessness..
    It is forever defeated and it lies prostrate before this website:
    http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/666.htm
    You see, the Romish thinkers reasoning are too childish, inane, and puerile. They quibble about little logical nonsense. They would not humble themselves in accepting their pope, their church to be the Apostate church in the Bible, the Religious persecuting power in the book of Daniel and Revelation.
    People of the world, be attentive to God’s Holy Spirit within your hearts. The Roman-catholic church thinkers would try to poison our minds. They would explain their side with so much reasoning as to destroy the force of the Holy Spirit’s conviction: that the pope is the 666, the beast in Revelation, the Harlot, the Little Horn power in Daniel. These titles fits to no other institution on earth than Roman-catholicism.. They are persecutors by nature, and they will do the same in the last days. According to Alberto Rivera, an Ex-Jesuit, the Roman Inquisition,- their tool of destroying protestant churches, is still alive today, and this church will still persecute people in the last days.. You people must be aware of this. Do not pay attention to anything in this website if it qoutes ideas which seems to interpret SDA scholars as though they negate their anti-pope position. Nor listen to the very scholars themselves when they seem to complicate plain simple statements. The decision is Final. The church of Rome is of Satanic origin. Its pope is Stan’s visible representative. Daniel and Revelation points to this institition not because protestant and SDAs interpreted it so but because logically it is as it is!! Such Biblical names of the Romish institution, as i’ve said, fits no other institution logically than this whore of Satan,-Roman-catholicism. I am aware some people out there will dare to comment upon this. Criticizing my harshness. Let it be known to all, that I am dealing with the heartless monsters of our time, these Roman-catholic scholars, these blind guides, these deceivers of the people, as though Christ have dealt with the hypocrites of His time, so I say to them the same: That the Roman-catholic bishops, popes, cardinals, priests, defenders, with the whole Jesuit pestilence,,they are “children of the devil”, “brood of vipers” whose brazen heads are harder than iron.. Truth would only harden them more. I tell you the truth people of the world, that this Roman-catholic church will again do the same shameful act they did in the past: killing people with relelntless impunity out of their religious intolerance, since their princicples were still unchanged. Pope John Paul II have indeed apologized about the Roman-catholic church’s bloody history, but he did not do any amendments of the church’s inward principles. In other words, retaining her persecuting intents. I may sound illogical. Logic is not my concern this time. Be convicted people, that being in the Roman-catholic church is dangerous. God said in Revelation, “Come out of her my people, be not partaker of her plagues.”
    Jesus said in the Gospels “Time cometh when one who kills you thinks he doeth God a service” This is the satanic spirit, the very spirit of Roman-catholicism. Anyone who dislikes my comments is a persecutor; he/she sides with the Roman church.

  • http://www.google.com Artaxerxes M. Garcia

    take a look at this effeminate site:
    http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/3975/sda.htm
    I see nothing there but emptiness. It is sheer weakness and brainlessness..
    It is forever defeated and it lies prostrate before this website:
    http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/666.htm
    You see, the Romish thinkers reasoning are too childish, inane, and puerile. They quibble about little logical nonsense. They would not humble themselves in accepting their pope, their church to be the Apostate church in the Bible, the Religious persecuting power in the book of Daniel and Revelation.
    People of the world, be attentive to God’s Holy Spirit within your hearts. The Roman-catholic church thinkers would try to poison our minds. They would explain their side with so much reasoning as to destroy the force of the Holy Spirit’s conviction: that the pope is the 666, the beast in Revelation, the Harlot, the Little Horn power in Daniel. These titles fits to no other institution on earth than Roman-catholicism.. They are persecutors by nature, and they will do the same in the last days. According to Alberto Rivera, an Ex-Jesuit, the Roman Inquisition,- their tool of destroying protestant churches, is still alive today, and this church will still persecute people in the last days.. You people must be aware of this. Do not pay attention to anything in this website if it qoutes ideas which seems to interpret SDA scholars as though they negate their anti-pope position. Nor listen to the very scholars themselves when they seem to complicate plain simple statements. The decision is Final. The church of Rome is of Satanic origin. Its pope is Stan’s visible representative. Daniel and Revelation points to this institition not because protestant and SDAs interpreted it so but because logically it is as it is!! Such Biblical names of the Romish institution, as i’ve said, fits no other institution logically than this whore of Satan,-Roman-catholicism. I am aware some people out there will dare to comment upon this. Criticizing my harshness. Let it be known to all, that I am dealing with the heartless monsters of our time, these Roman-catholic scholars, these blind guides, these deceivers of the people, as though Christ have dealt with the hypocrites of His time, so I say to them the same: That the Roman-catholic bishops, popes, cardinals, priests, defenders, with the whole Jesuit pestilence,,they are “children of the devil”, “brood of vipers” whose brazen heads are harder than iron.. Truth would only harden them more. I tell you the truth people of the world, that this Roman-catholic church will again do the same shameful act they did in the past: killing people with relelntless impunity out of their religious intolerance, since their princicples were still unchanged. Pope John Paul II have indeed apologized about the Roman-catholic church’s bloody history, but he did not do any amendments of the church’s inward principles. In other words, retaining her persecuting intents. I may sound illogical. Logic is not my concern this time. Be convicted people, that being in the Roman-catholic church is dangerous. God said in Revelation, “Come out of her my people, be not partaker of her plagues.”
    Jesus said in the Gospels “Time cometh when one who kills you thinks he doeth God a service” This is the satanic spirit, the very spirit of Roman-catholicism. Anyone who dislikes my comments is a persecutor; he/she sides with the Roman church.

  • FREDLEY ASUN

    God is the Alpha and Omega, amen!

  • FREDLEY ASUN

    God is the Alpha and Omega, amen!

  • http://www.google.com Artaxerxes M. garcia

    Yeah man, Jesus: the YaHWeH in flesh is that God, the Alpha and Omega. And this awesome God scorns and ignores the blasphemous Roman-catholic institution as we can see in Daniel 7 and 8, and Revelation 17, 13, 14… Let me ask you. How do Vatican feel about Jesus Who will be coming in glory in the clouds? Surely the pope and all other Vatican big shots don’t like to hear this. It irritates them to know there is an authority higher than they, the authority who saw their wicked human-killing history.. Oh, what a shame!

  • http://www.google.com Artaxerxes M. garcia

    Yeah man, Jesus: the YaHWeH in flesh is that God, the Alpha and Omega. And this awesome God scorns and ignores the blasphemous Roman-catholic institution as we can see in Daniel 7 and 8, and Revelation 17, 13, 14… Let me ask you. How do Vatican feel about Jesus Who will be coming in glory in the clouds? Surely the pope and all other Vatican big shots don’t like to hear this. It irritates them to know there is an authority higher than they, the authority who saw their wicked human-killing history.. Oh, what a shame!

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  • http://www.666beast.net Ralph Myers

    Let loose of the harsh arguments. Those who wish to believe in the alleged papal title “Vicaruis Filii Dei” are impeding the real truth. The true meaning of the number 666 is more damning to the papacy than any supposed papal title. Out the window with the conversion of letters of a name or title into numbers that are added together to make the count of 666… This method of interpretation came FROM the Catholic bible footnotes on Rev 13:18.
    There are REAL numbers on the names of the popes that neither they nor anyone can refute. Pope Pius… how many were there? Twelve…. 1 + 2+ 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 7 + 8 + 9 + 10 + 11 + 12 = 78…. That is 78 towards the count of 666.
    There were 13 popes named Leo. That name adds 91 to the count. There were 16 popes named Gregory… adds 136… There were 14 popes named Benedict. (Benedict X was deposed, check the record) …adds 105 to the count. There were 21 popes named John… adds 231 to the count… (John XVI was deposed, John XX never existed. Check the record… found in all the world’s encyclopedias, almanacs, etc.) There were 6 popes named Paul … adds 21 to the count. John Paul II… adds 3 to the count.
    78 + 91 + 136 + 105 + 231 + 21 + 3 = 665……
    Ooops?
    No… the last and final one… the “eighth” and most important Antichrist, Satan himself will depose Benedict XVI and complete the count.
    Watch and see.

  • http://www.666beast.net Ralph Myers

    Let loose of the harsh arguments. Those who wish to believe in the alleged papal title “Vicaruis Filii Dei” are impeding the real truth. The true meaning of the number 666 is more damning to the papacy than any supposed papal title. Out the window with the conversion of letters of a name or title into numbers that are added together to make the count of 666… This method of interpretation came FROM the Catholic bible footnotes on Rev 13:18.
    There are REAL numbers on the names of the popes that neither they nor anyone can refute. Pope Pius… how many were there? Twelve…. 1 + 2+ 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 7 + 8 + 9 + 10 + 11 + 12 = 78…. That is 78 towards the count of 666.
    There were 13 popes named Leo. That name adds 91 to the count. There were 16 popes named Gregory… adds 136… There were 14 popes named Benedict. (Benedict X was deposed, check the record) …adds 105 to the count. There were 21 popes named John… adds 231 to the count… (John XVI was deposed, John XX never existed. Check the record… found in all the world’s encyclopedias, almanacs, etc.) There were 6 popes named Paul … adds 21 to the count. John Paul II… adds 3 to the count.
    78 + 91 + 136 + 105 + 231 + 21 + 3 = 665……
    Ooops?
    No… the last and final one… the “eighth” and most important Antichrist, Satan himself will depose Benedict XVI and complete the count.
    Watch and see.

  • http://www.666beast.net Ralph Myers

    Above are listed the seven heads of the beast. They are the seven mountains. The first five are fallen before the sixth arrived. Benedict is among the first four, and thus by prophecy, that name is fallen before Pope Paul VI came. Benedict XVI will be found to be an antipope. John Paul I&II comprise the seven head and the seventh mountain that had “not yet come” when the 6th “Paul” was present.
    Rev 13:18 links directly to Rev 17:9 & 10. This is the Wisdom spoken of in both verses.

  • http://www.666beast.net Ralph Myers

    Above are listed the seven heads of the beast. They are the seven mountains. The first five are fallen before the sixth arrived. Benedict is among the first four, and thus by prophecy, that name is fallen before Pope Paul VI came. Benedict XVI will be found to be an antipope. John Paul I&II comprise the seven head and the seventh mountain that had “not yet come” when the 6th “Paul” was present.
    Rev 13:18 links directly to Rev 17:9 & 10. This is the Wisdom spoken of in both verses.

  • http://www.666beast.net Ralph Myers
  • http://www.666beast.net Ralph Myers
  • jason bridges

    I have read all the post by Mr. Garcia and not only does he keep repeating the samething over & over as if he is speaking to a idiot. It seems that he thinks that by doing so makes himself more right each time. And that is just not rational. Also his use of words sometimes left me wondering if he even understood what he himself was saying. But the saddest thing about his rant is that had to reduce himself to name calling because he felt threatend instead of coming back with a increaseingly convincing argument . It is that type of behavior that first of all intellegent people want nothing to do with and it does nothing to further his case or cause. My advice to Mr Garcia #1 calm down #2 stop name calling #3 spend my more time organizing your argument and less talking down to others . Last the bible was wrote thousands of years ago in not so plain a language by humans not the hand of GOD .Give people a break no one is perfect.

  • jason bridges

    I have read all the post by Mr. Garcia and not only does he keep repeating the samething over & over as if he is speaking to a idiot. It seems that he thinks that by doing so makes himself more right each time. And that is just not rational. Also his use of words sometimes left me wondering if he even understood what he himself was saying. But the saddest thing about his rant is that had to reduce himself to name calling because he felt threatend instead of coming back with a increaseingly convincing argument . It is that type of behavior that first of all intellegent people want nothing to do with and it does nothing to further his case or cause. My advice to Mr Garcia #1 calm down #2 stop name calling #3 spend my more time organizing your argument and less talking down to others . Last the bible was wrote thousands of years ago in not so plain a language by humans not the hand of GOD .Give people a break no one is perfect.

  • Eldo

    The new theory about 666 is based on weak, weak speculations. How? You cannot base your theology on a statement like: “the Bible does not say…” That would be an empty statement. First, christian theologians are not the best qualified to explain the meaning of 666 because they don’t usually have enough facts. They must work together with historians and experts of occult sources to gain better insight. Christ used the number 666 in the book of Revelation for a reason. But when the pagans invented the “theology” of 666 they did not have your systematic theology in mind! The context of 666 is in the Babylonian culture. So that’s the right place to start the investigation.

    Bible is not an occult or cabbalistic text book – hence creation story has nothing to do with 666. Only an occultist or a gnostic would belive that!

    Today there is a “market” or “demand” for politically correct ecumenical theology and revision of old views. Many interpretations have been developed over the centuries with a sole aim of shifting the focus off from the true identity of the antichrist in the Vatican. The most effective in this work have been the Jesuits. Bacchiocci may be too close to the Jesuits and the RCC to appreciate traditional protestant theology about the identity of the antichrist.

    The ancient Babylonian religion is disguised today as the Roman Catholic System headed by the priest king of the Vatican. Once you understand and can document the connection between Rome and Babylon you understand a lot.

    The number 666 is hidden in many artefacts and relics of the RCC.
    The latin letter F is the sixth letter. The greek letter S is the sixth letter also. These letters and their combinations such as SSS, SFS are shown in many holy artefacts in the RCC. This is the kind of game that the occultists play. If you don’t believe find someone who is better qualified than you – like a bornagain ex-witch or an ex-astrologer. The meaning of 666 comes from Babylonian theology – astrology and the worship of the planetary gods.

    Neither the sea-beast of the revelation nor the two horned beast did exist at the time of apostle John and so it is only logical that the name of the beast remained a mystery to John. However, in the book of Rev. the earth-animal persuades all to worship the sea-beast, whose authority the mark symbolises. So the sea-beast receives everyones’ worship by using the earth-animal as his agent – a false Elijah, who prepares an unholy people for the antichrist (the beast with a false resurrection). And this earth-animal legally enforces the mark or the authority of the sea-beast to show that the antichristian power owns their souls. These people have given their heart and mind or soul to the dragon.

    To me 666 represents devil’s doctrines, an unholy theology i.e. occult mysteries and secret sciences that originated in Babylon and have spread to the mainstream churches via the Roman Catholic System. Rev. 17 must also be considered to understand 666. There the mystery name is written on the forehead of the prostitute sitting on a beast. And that woman is not the earth-animal or the false prophet! She represents the unfaithful church – the Roman Catholic System, that is drunk from the blood of the saints spilled by the crusaders and the inquisition. Don’t let any Jesuit or their apprentices to have you believe otherwise.

    To unravel the pagan mystery of 666 it would be equally valid to use any historically relevant language to analyse the name of the sea-beast in the context of Babylonian mystery religion disguised as christianity in the Vatican and RCC. To test the Roman Catholic System it would be most logical to use latin to calculate 666 since it is the official language of the latin church. 666 is a mystery hidden in a language – any language! Learning sumerian language would be a good start also!

    But here are some more recent evidence.

    During the funerals of JPII the Associated Press published a short article stating that the name John Paul the Second had been inscribed in LATIN in the coffin of the dead pope. Later this article disappeared from the Internet search engine (HighBeam.com). Why did Wojtyla chose his papal name to be JPII? A coincidence? Maybe… not… He had his political reasons to do so but it was not a coincidence that’s for sure. Can you add the numbers?

    I = 1
    O = 0
    A = 0
    N = 0
    N = 0
    E = 0
    S = 0

    P = 0
    A = 0
    V = 5
    L = 50
    V = 5
    S = 0

    S = 0
    E = 0
    C = 100
    U = 5
    N = 0
    D = 500
    O = 0
    Total = 666

  • Eldo

    The new theory about 666 is based on weak, weak speculations. How? You cannot base your theology on a statement like: “the Bible does not say…” That would be an empty statement. First, christian theologians are not the best qualified to explain the meaning of 666 because they don’t usually have enough facts. They must work together with historians and experts of occult sources to gain better insight. Christ used the number 666 in the book of Revelation for a reason. But when the pagans invented the “theology” of 666 they did not have your systematic theology in mind! The context of 666 is in the Babylonian culture. So that’s the right place to start the investigation.

    Bible is not an occult or cabbalistic text book – hence creation story has nothing to do with 666. Only an occultist or a gnostic would belive that!

    Today there is a “market” or “demand” for politically correct ecumenical theology and revision of old views. Many interpretations have been developed over the centuries with a sole aim of shifting the focus off from the true identity of the antichrist in the Vatican. The most effective in this work have been the Jesuits. Bacchiocci may be too close to the Jesuits and the RCC to appreciate traditional protestant theology about the identity of the antichrist.

    The ancient Babylonian religion is disguised today as the Roman Catholic System headed by the priest king of the Vatican. Once you understand and can document the connection between Rome and Babylon you understand a lot.

    The number 666 is hidden in many artefacts and relics of the RCC.
    The latin letter F is the sixth letter. The greek letter S is the sixth letter also. These letters and their combinations such as SSS, SFS are shown in many holy artefacts in the RCC. This is the kind of game that the occultists play. If you don’t believe find someone who is better qualified than you – like a bornagain ex-witch or an ex-astrologer. The meaning of 666 comes from Babylonian theology – astrology and the worship of the planetary gods.

    Neither the sea-beast of the revelation nor the two horned beast did exist at the time of apostle John and so it is only logical that the name of the beast remained a mystery to John. However, in the book of Rev. the earth-animal persuades all to worship the sea-beast, whose authority the mark symbolises. So the sea-beast receives everyones’ worship by using the earth-animal as his agent – a false Elijah, who prepares an unholy people for the antichrist (the beast with a false resurrection). And this earth-animal legally enforces the mark or the authority of the sea-beast to show that the antichristian power owns their souls. These people have given their heart and mind or soul to the dragon.

    To me 666 represents devil’s doctrines, an unholy theology i.e. occult mysteries and secret sciences that originated in Babylon and have spread to the mainstream churches via the Roman Catholic System. Rev. 17 must also be considered to understand 666. There the mystery name is written on the forehead of the prostitute sitting on a beast. And that woman is not the earth-animal or the false prophet! She represents the unfaithful church – the Roman Catholic System, that is drunk from the blood of the saints spilled by the crusaders and the inquisition. Don’t let any Jesuit or their apprentices to have you believe otherwise.

    To unravel the pagan mystery of 666 it would be equally valid to use any historically relevant language to analyse the name of the sea-beast in the context of Babylonian mystery religion disguised as christianity in the Vatican and RCC. To test the Roman Catholic System it would be most logical to use latin to calculate 666 since it is the official language of the latin church. 666 is a mystery hidden in a language – any language! Learning sumerian language would be a good start also!

    But here are some more recent evidence.

    During the funerals of JPII the Associated Press published a short article stating that the name John Paul the Second had been inscribed in LATIN in the coffin of the dead pope. Later this article disappeared from the Internet search engine (HighBeam.com). Why did Wojtyla chose his papal name to be JPII? A coincidence? Maybe… not… He had his political reasons to do so but it was not a coincidence that’s for sure. Can you add the numbers?

    I = 1
    O = 0
    A = 0
    N = 0
    N = 0
    E = 0
    S = 0

    P = 0
    A = 0
    V = 5
    L = 50
    V = 5
    S = 0

    S = 0
    E = 0
    C = 100
    U = 5
    N = 0
    D = 500
    O = 0
    Total = 666

  • http://www.666beast.net Ralph Myers

    So, if John Paul II was the 666 man, then where is the coming of Christ, which 2Thess 2 says would happen that would destroy him?
    Get real numbers from the beast. As I posted months ago above, these numbers have never been refuted, not even by a Catholic. The Biblical Research Institute of the SDA church is a compete disgrace to this topic. Their denial of the research that I have done, will come back to haunt them. They have taken great pains to slander the research that I gave them, and sending out private newsletters to every SDA minister in their effort to prevent them from looking at my book or website. In the 12 years since this discovery was made, not one objection has ever been written or spoken against this research that has stood against a rebuttal. The prophecy is still unfolding and will put to shame all those who have stood against it. Instead of trying to suppress this research, it should have received a refreshing welcome by the SDA thology departments worldwide.

  • http://www.666beast.net Ralph Myers

    So, if John Paul II was the 666 man, then where is the coming of Christ, which 2Thess 2 says would happen that would destroy him?
    Get real numbers from the beast. As I posted months ago above, these numbers have never been refuted, not even by a Catholic. The Biblical Research Institute of the SDA church is a compete disgrace to this topic. Their denial of the research that I have done, will come back to haunt them. They have taken great pains to slander the research that I gave them, and sending out private newsletters to every SDA minister in their effort to prevent them from looking at my book or website. In the 12 years since this discovery was made, not one objection has ever been written or spoken against this research that has stood against a rebuttal. The prophecy is still unfolding and will put to shame all those who have stood against it. Instead of trying to suppress this research, it should have received a refreshing welcome by the SDA thology departments worldwide.

  • http://biblelight.net Mike Scheifler

    Official papal use that authenticates the title has been discovered. Vicarius Filii Dei was used twice by Pope Paul VI in documents found on the Vatican’s web site. They are Apostolic Constitutions, which are the highest form of official Papal decree in the Roman Catholic Church and are issued with binding legal authority.
    See http://biblelight.net/666.htm#OFFICIAL

  • http://biblelight.net Mike Scheifler

    Official papal use that authenticates the title has been discovered. Vicarius Filii Dei was used twice by Pope Paul VI in documents found on the Vatican’s web site. They are Apostolic Constitutions, which are the highest form of official Papal decree in the Roman Catholic Church and are issued with binding legal authority.
    See http://biblelight.net/666.htm#OFFICIAL

  • http://www.666beast.net Ralph Myers

    The papal use or authentication of the title, still does not make that to be the correct interpretation of the prophecy. There still remains the incongruencies of how a title can replace a name, and how all the popes (or in this case, how all of them since the alleged authentication) are the ones to receive this number. It completely fails to point out the "one" whom Christ will destroy at His coming. The "Holy Chair of Peter" is not a musical chair program that when the music stops, that the unlucky one, is unfortunate to be the one to be destroyed. He is in that chair at the time of Christ's coming because he alone fulfills the prophecy in all of its facets, not just a few.

  • http://www.666beast.net Ralph Myers

    The papal use or authentication of the title, still does not make that to be the correct interpretation of the prophecy. There still remains the incongruencies of how a title can replace a name, and how all the popes (or in this case, how all of them since the alleged authentication) are the ones to receive this number. It completely fails to point out the "one" whom Christ will destroy at His coming. The "Holy Chair of Peter" is not a musical chair program that when the music stops, that the unlucky one, is unfortunate to be the one to be destroyed. He is in that chair at the time of Christ's coming because he alone fulfills the prophecy in all of its facets, not just a few.

  • Ian Reynolds

    Ralph does need to be listened to by the SDA community. I have studied the new counting method in great depth. The counting method is sure. And the 7 mountains begin from 1798. Although Ralph, it rings out loud and clear to me that Benedict XVI is not to be deposed, rather he will change his name to fulfill the count. I am sure of this.
    I also dont want to critisise the old method of counting, It still pointed in the right direction until our present time when more light was given by Jesus into the counting method.
    I have also come across resistance in sharing this with SDA'ists, and it saddens me greatly because Jesus revealed this so kindly to me. I will never forget the day my eyes were opened to this study……
    God bless.

  • Ian Reynolds

    Ralph does need to be listened to by the SDA community. I have studied the new counting method in great depth. The counting method is sure. And the 7 mountains begin from 1798. Although Ralph, it rings out loud and clear to me that Benedict XVI is not to be deposed, rather he will change his name to fulfill the count. I am sure of this.
    I also dont want to critisise the old method of counting, It still pointed in the right direction until our present time when more light was given by Jesus into the counting method.
    I have also come across resistance in sharing this with SDA'ists, and it saddens me greatly because Jesus revealed this so kindly to me. I will never forget the day my eyes were opened to this study……
    God bless.

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  • Armando Rances

    HA HA HA HA HA…

    I find Mr. Artaxerxes’ speculations very funny…

    Why are you wasting your precious time and energy speculating your supposed Satan’s disciple bearing that number 666 where in fact he was already existing during the time John was shown the vision of Revelation 13 and 17? It happens already a very long-long time ago. It seems you’re poorly educated on that matter.

    I can see that you really believe your unfounded fallacious theories. Well, I advice you to dig very well into the Roman history from the time of Augustus, the disastrous extinction of his Julio-Claudian dynasty, the reestablishment of the extinct Imperial Dynasty by Emperor Vespasian, to the era of the Roman Tetrarchy—administrtion of four rulers (Dioletian, Maximian, Constantius and Galerius)—and Constantine’s successful campaign using the secret Christian symbols as his battle standard, till the toleration of Christianity was granted.

    If you’re gifted with understanding, you’ll find out that you’re really funny. HA HA HA.

    Although, your “Vicarius Filii Dei” on the pope’s tiara has been refuted fallacious several times already since the SDA dreamers invented that issue, you still fanatically cling on to death with that non-sense delusions of yours. Just for your information the Popes title is “Vicarius Christi,” not that one invented by a hallucinating SDA paranoiac.

    Granting that it is true; still your computation is grossly erroneous because you used the modernized Roman numerals which were simplified during the medieval time using only seven (7) letters of the Roman alphabet (i.e. I, V, X, L, C, D, M).

    The original Roman numerals and notations had other letters of the Roman alphabet specific numeric value like: “A” & D both 500; “A” was removed in the modernized Roman numerals while “D” was retained 500 because it’s an abbreviation of Demi-mille or half-thousand. “E” represent 250, “H” is 200, “B” is 300, while “P” and “G” both 400.

    Look carefully your computations:

    VICARIVSFILIIDIE
    511000?0?150?0?1501150010?666?

    Why did you make “A” = 0 where in fact it’s 500? And “E” = 0 where it should be 250?
    Did you people intentionally do this fallacy to fit your crooked purpose?

    The Roman numeral was modified during the medieval time to simplify its computations and for other specific purposes.

    Here are the Letters of the Classical Latin Alphabet and its numeric value used during the Republican and Imperial Rome.

    1510 115010015016020025030040050090010002000
    IVXOLCYTHEBGANMZ
    KPD
    Q

    Check “WEBSTER’S NEW SCHOOL & OFFICE DICTIONARY” ISBN 9718817868 to verify the specific numeric value of every letter of the Roman alphabet before the Medieval time and you’ll see how erroneous your presentation is.

    The most reliable computation should be:

    VICARIVSFILIIDIE
    51100500151501150012501416

    Though, “R” = 80, “S” = 70, and “F” = 40, I did not include them in this presentation as its numerical representations appears only during the medieval time; unlike A and E.

    I admired your shameless guts in concluding that the little horn that came up and made three other horns fall mentioned in Daniel 7:8 and 20-27, is a Pope.

    Are you hallucinating? Or, you just have a poor background in history. Or perhaps, you just have a very poor discerning ability because your heart was imprisoned by your deep seated animosity against the Catholic Church.

    The presentations published on the website: http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/666.htm
    which you are bragging does not impressed me. It has no relevant facts that will elucidate your fictional argument. All that it showed were erratic interpolations and numeric misrepresentations whose conclusions are not based on facts but of fallacious speculations of a wrong time. 666 represent a man’s name or may contain a man’s name. The presentation on the website computed some names of men that have nothing to do with John’s 666. There’s nothing to learn from those materials. An erratic speculative material that contains nothing but poisonous fiction is nothing but a garbage.

    In a nutshell, those published materials are for the birds.

  • Armando Rances

    HA HA HA HA HA…

    I find Mr. Artaxerxes’ speculations very funny…

    Why are you wasting your precious time and energy speculating your supposed Satan’s disciple bearing that number 666 where in fact he was already existing during the time John was shown the vision of Revelation 13 and 17? It happens already a very long-long time ago. It seems you’re poorly educated on that matter.

    I can see that you really believe your unfounded fallacious theories. Well, I advice you to dig very well into the Roman history from the time of Augustus, the disastrous extinction of his Julio-Claudian dynasty, the reestablishment of the extinct Imperial Dynasty by Emperor Vespasian, to the era of the Roman Tetrarchy—administrtion of four rulers (Dioletian, Maximian, Constantius and Galerius)—and Constantine’s successful campaign using the secret Christian symbols as his battle standard, till the toleration of Christianity was granted.

    If you’re gifted with understanding, you’ll find out that you’re really funny. HA HA HA.

    Although, your “Vicarius Filii Dei” on the pope’s tiara has been refuted fallacious several times already since the SDA dreamers invented that issue, you still fanatically cling on to death with that non-sense delusions of yours. Just for your information the Popes title is “Vicarius Christi,” not that one invented by a hallucinating SDA paranoiac.

    Granting that it is true; still your computation is grossly erroneous because you used the modernized Roman numerals which were simplified during the medieval time using only seven (7) letters of the Roman alphabet (i.e. I, V, X, L, C, D, M).

    The original Roman numerals and notations had other letters of the Roman alphabet specific numeric value like: “A” & D both 500; “A” was removed in the modernized Roman numerals while “D” was retained 500 because it’s an abbreviation of Demi-mille or half-thousand. “E” represent 250, “H” is 200, “B” is 300, while “P” and “G” both 400.

    Look carefully your computations:

    VICARIVSFILIIDIE
    511000?0?150?0?1501150010?666?

    Why did you make “A” = 0 where in fact it’s 500? And “E” = 0 where it should be 250?
    Did you people intentionally do this fallacy to fit your crooked purpose?

    The Roman numeral was modified during the medieval time to simplify its computations and for other specific purposes.

    Here are the Letters of the Classical Latin Alphabet and its numeric value used during the Republican and Imperial Rome.

    1510 115010015016020025030040050090010002000
    IVXOLCYTHEBGANMZ
    KPD
    Q

    Check “WEBSTER’S NEW SCHOOL & OFFICE DICTIONARY” ISBN 9718817868 to verify the specific numeric value of every letter of the Roman alphabet before the Medieval time and you’ll see how erroneous your presentation is.

    The most reliable computation should be:

    VICARIVSFILIIDIE
    51100500151501150012501416

    Though, “R” = 80, “S” = 70, and “F” = 40, I did not include them in this presentation as its numerical representations appears only during the medieval time; unlike A and E.

    I admired your shameless guts in concluding that the little horn that came up and made three other horns fall mentioned in Daniel 7:8 and 20-27, is a Pope.

    Are you hallucinating? Or, you just have a poor background in history. Or perhaps, you just have a very poor discerning ability because your heart was imprisoned by your deep seated animosity against the Catholic Church.

    The presentations published on the website: http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/666.htm
    which you are bragging does not impressed me. It has no relevant facts that will elucidate your fictional argument. All that it showed were erratic interpolations and numeric misrepresentations whose conclusions are not based on facts but of fallacious speculations of a wrong time. 666 represent a man’s name or may contain a man’s name. The presentation on the website computed some names of men that have nothing to do with John’s 666. There’s nothing to learn from those materials. An erratic speculative material that contains nothing but poisonous fiction is nothing but a garbage.

    In a nutshell, those published materials are for the birds.

  • Armando Rances

    Let me redo my first tables that were corrupted when transferred.
    Here it is.

    The Roman numeral was modified during the medieval time to simplify its computations and for other specific purposes.

    Here are the Letters of the Classical Latin Alphabet and its numeric value used during the Republican and Imperial Rome.

    =1=5=10=11=50=100=150=160=200=250=300=400=500=900=1000=2000
    =I= V= X= O==L = C == Y == T ==H ==E ===B ==G===A===N=== M====Z
    ===============================K ====== P===D==============
    =======================================Q==================
    Check “WEBSTER’S NEW SCHOOL & OFFICE DICTIONARY” ISBN 9718817868 to verify the specific numeric value of every letter of the Roman alphabet before the Medieval time and you’ll see how erroneous your presentation is.

    The most reliable computation should be:

    =V=I==C===A==R=I=V=S===F=I==L===I=I===D===E==I=== TOTAL
    =5=1=100=500=[]=1=5=[]===[]=1= 50 =1=1==500=250=1== 1416
    Though, “R” = 80, “S” = 70, and “F” = 40, I did not include them in this presentation as its numerical representations appears only during the medieval time; unlike A and E.

    The number 666 of the Apocalypse 13 is only one of the clues that will identify the ruler of the second beast that came out of the earth (land) having two horns like a lamb’s horns who will breath life to the extinct first beast (the Julio-Claudian Imperial Dynasty that perished with the death of Nero who has no legitimate successor). It was Emperor Vespasian—founder of the Flavian Dynasty—who win the legitimacy of being the direct successor to the lost Imperial Dynasty, and received the vast powers and authority with extra-constitutional prerogative formerly granted to Augustus and his successors, the Tribunicia Potestas and Imperiun Proconsular Maius. Emperor Vespasian and his Flavian dynasty was the second beast. He breathes life to the extinct first beast (the Julio-Claudian Dynasty) by receiving the enabling law, the “Lex De Imperio Vespasiani” (22 December A.D. 69), from the Senate and the people of Rome, granting powers and privileges formerly granted to the Julio-Claudian line. The fallen Julio-Claudian Dynasty has five (5) emperors—1st Augustus, 2nd Tiberius, 3rd Gaius Caligula, 4th Claudius and 5th Nero—while the Flavian has three. Titus Flavius Vespasianus was the sixth legitimate emperor, while his son and successor Titus was the 7th ruler who ruled only for a short two years and two months. The five (5) Julio-Claudian Rulers and the 1st two rulers of the Flavians completes the seven (7) heads of the beast in Apocalypse 17:9-10.
    •9 This calls for wisdom and understanding. The seven heads are seven hills, on which the woman sits. They are also seven kings: five of them have fallen, one still rule, and the other one (7th) has not yet come; when he comes he must rule only a little while.

    The last of the Flavians happens to be the 8th emperor of Rome who became the second persecutor of Christians that followed Nero—the fifth head of the beast—and was assassinated in A.D. 96 without obtaining the senate vote for an edict of an empire-wide extermination the Christians and the Jews. Isn’t Domitian the 8th ruler mentioned in Apocalypse 17:11?
    •11 And the beast that was once alive, but lives no longer, is itself an eighth king who is one of the seven and is going off to be destroyed.

    Wasn’t Emperor Domitian the 1st of the ten (10) horns of the beast Nero, and the little horn you mention in Daniel 7 was Emperor Galerius, the 10th horn of the beast (the last of the persecutors of Christians)?

  • Armando Rances

    Let me redo my first tables that were corrupted when transferred.
    Here it is.

    The Roman numeral was modified during the medieval time to simplify its computations and for other specific purposes.

    Here are the Letters of the Classical Latin Alphabet and its numeric value used during the Republican and Imperial Rome.

    =1=5=10=11=50=100=150=160=200=250=300=400=500=900=1000=2000
    =I= V= X= O==L = C == Y == T ==H ==E ===B ==G===A===N=== M====Z
    ===============================K ====== P===D==============
    =======================================Q==================
    Check “WEBSTER’S NEW SCHOOL & OFFICE DICTIONARY” ISBN 9718817868 to verify the specific numeric value of every letter of the Roman alphabet before the Medieval time and you’ll see how erroneous your presentation is.

    The most reliable computation should be:

    =V=I==C===A==R=I=V=S===F=I==L===I=I===D===E==I=== TOTAL
    =5=1=100=500=[]=1=5=[]===[]=1= 50 =1=1==500=250=1== 1416
    Though, “R” = 80, “S” = 70, and “F” = 40, I did not include them in this presentation as its numerical representations appears only during the medieval time; unlike A and E.

    The number 666 of the Apocalypse 13 is only one of the clues that will identify the ruler of the second beast that came out of the earth (land) having two horns like a lamb’s horns who will breath life to the extinct first beast (the Julio-Claudian Imperial Dynasty that perished with the death of Nero who has no legitimate successor). It was Emperor Vespasian—founder of the Flavian Dynasty—who win the legitimacy of being the direct successor to the lost Imperial Dynasty, and received the vast powers and authority with extra-constitutional prerogative formerly granted to Augustus and his successors, the Tribunicia Potestas and Imperiun Proconsular Maius. Emperor Vespasian and his Flavian dynasty was the second beast. He breathes life to the extinct first beast (the Julio-Claudian Dynasty) by receiving the enabling law, the “Lex De Imperio Vespasiani” (22 December A.D. 69), from the Senate and the people of Rome, granting powers and privileges formerly granted to the Julio-Claudian line. The fallen Julio-Claudian Dynasty has five (5) emperors—1st Augustus, 2nd Tiberius, 3rd Gaius Caligula, 4th Claudius and 5th Nero—while the Flavian has three. Titus Flavius Vespasianus was the sixth legitimate emperor, while his son and successor Titus was the 7th ruler who ruled only for a short two years and two months. The five (5) Julio-Claudian Rulers and the 1st two rulers of the Flavians completes the seven (7) heads of the beast in Apocalypse 17:9-10.
    •9 This calls for wisdom and understanding. The seven heads are seven hills, on which the woman sits. They are also seven kings: five of them have fallen, one still rule, and the other one (7th) has not yet come; when he comes he must rule only a little while.

    The last of the Flavians happens to be the 8th emperor of Rome who became the second persecutor of Christians that followed Nero—the fifth head of the beast—and was assassinated in A.D. 96 without obtaining the senate vote for an edict of an empire-wide extermination the Christians and the Jews. Isn’t Domitian the 8th ruler mentioned in Apocalypse 17:11?
    •11 And the beast that was once alive, but lives no longer, is itself an eighth king who is one of the seven and is going off to be destroyed.

    Wasn’t Emperor Domitian the 1st of the ten (10) horns of the beast Nero, and the little horn you mention in Daniel 7 was Emperor Galerius, the 10th horn of the beast (the last of the persecutors of Christians)?

  • Armando Rances

    The little horn in Daniel 7:8 & 20-27 was the Roman Emperor Galerius (A.D.305-A.D. 311) of the Roman Tetrarchy—founded by Emperor Diocletian in 1 March A.D. 293. He was the last persecutor of Christians and the tenth (10th) horn of the beast in Rev. 13 & 17. The three horns that fall when the little horn (Galerius) came up in Daniel 7:8 & 20-27 were the first three rulers of the Roman Tetrarchy that fall; two of them abdicated their thrones simultaneously—Diocletian and Maximian in 1 May A.D. 305—while the other one died—Constantius, 25 July A.D. 306. They—Diocletian, Maximian, Constantius and Galerius—were the founding rulers of the Roman Tetrarchy—adminitration of four rulers—in 1 March A.D 293.

    Refer Daniel’s interpretation of King Nebuchadnezzar’s dream of a huge statue. In Daniel 2:41-44:

    •41 You saw that the feet and toes were partly clay and partly iron. This means that it will be a divided empire. It will have something of the strength of iron, because there was iron mixed with clay. 42 The toes—partly clay and partly iron—means part of that empire will be strong and partly weak. 43 You also saw that the iron was mixed with the clay. This means that the rulers of that empire will try to unite their families by intermarriages, but they will not be able to, any more than iron can mix with clay. 44 At the time of those rulers the God of heaven will establish a kingdom that will never end. It will never be conquered, and will completely destroy all those empires and then last forever.

    Emperor Diocletian’s Tetrarchy—rule of four—is a divided empire. He took the imperial throne in A.D. 284. In November 285 he appointed Caesar his trusted colleagues Maximian, and in 1 April 286 he raised him to the rank of Augustus and put him on a joint rulership, dividing the empire’s administrative regions into west with Maximian ruling with a new capital city in Milan not in Rome, and east with Diocletian ruling as senior Emperor with veto power whose capital is in Nicomedia. Thus, fulfilling Nebuchadnezzar’s dream of the statue’s two feet, left and right at the end of the 4th empire, which means that the 4th empire will be divided into two; eastern and western empire. Furthermore, each foot also was divided into two because of the presence of clay mixed with iron on both feet making the empire divided into four rulers, two rulers in the eastern region (left foot) and two rulers in the western region (right foot) and with both of the two regions has its own weak ruler (clay) and strong ruler (iron).

    In 1 March A.D. 293 Emperor Diocletian formally subdivided the empire into four administrative regions; two in the east with him ruling in his capital in Nicomedia, raised Galerius (the little horn in Daniel 7:8 & 20) to the rank of Caesar and designated him deputy emperor to rule in his own capital in Sirmium; similarly, Maximian raised Constantius to the rank of Caesar, appointed him deputy emperor to rule the northwestern region whose capital was Trier.

    A divided empire, isn’t it?

    Check Daniel 2:41;
    •41 You saw that the feet and toes were partly clay and partly iron. This means that it will be a divided empire.

    Caesar Galerius (the little horn) is married to Emperor Diocletian’s daughter Galleria Valeria, while Caesar Constantius set aside his wife Helena (mother of Constantine) to marry Emperor Maximian’s stepdaughter Theodora. Emperor Maximian’s son Maxentius married Caesar Galerius daughter Valeria Maximilla, while Constantius’ son Constantine married Emperor Maximian’s daughter Fausta. When Galerius became emperor because of the resignation of the two senior emperors; one of his two protégé Emperor Severus II was defeated and killed by the forces of Rome’s usurper, Maxentius. He appointed emperor of the west another protégé ; his friend Licinius. Upon Galerius’ death in May A.D. 311 from a horrible cancer. Licinius became apprehensive of Galerius nephew, Emperor Maximinus Daia of the east. He allied himself with Constantine; the emperor of the west, by marrying Constantine’s half sister Constantia, recognizing Constantine as a senior emperor while planning to take the east from Maximinus Daia with a help from Constantine.

    Aren’t these the fulfillment of Daniel 2:43?
    •43 You also saw that the iron was mixed with the clay. This means that the rulers of that empire will try to unite their families by intermarriages, but they will not be able to, any more than iron can mix with clay.

  • Armando Rances

    The little horn in Daniel 7:8 & 20-27 was the Roman Emperor Galerius (A.D.305-A.D. 311) of the Roman Tetrarchy—founded by Emperor Diocletian in 1 March A.D. 293. He was the last persecutor of Christians and the tenth (10th) horn of the beast in Rev. 13 & 17. The three horns that fall when the little horn (Galerius) came up in Daniel 7:8 & 20-27 were the first three rulers of the Roman Tetrarchy that fall; two of them abdicated their thrones simultaneously—Diocletian and Maximian in 1 May A.D. 305—while the other one died—Constantius, 25 July A.D. 306. They—Diocletian, Maximian, Constantius and Galerius—were the founding rulers of the Roman Tetrarchy—adminitration of four rulers—in 1 March A.D 293.

    Refer Daniel’s interpretation of King Nebuchadnezzar’s dream of a huge statue. In Daniel 2:41-44:

    •41 You saw that the feet and toes were partly clay and partly iron. This means that it will be a divided empire. It will have something of the strength of iron, because there was iron mixed with clay. 42 The toes—partly clay and partly iron—means part of that empire will be strong and partly weak. 43 You also saw that the iron was mixed with the clay. This means that the rulers of that empire will try to unite their families by intermarriages, but they will not be able to, any more than iron can mix with clay. 44 At the time of those rulers the God of heaven will establish a kingdom that will never end. It will never be conquered, and will completely destroy all those empires and then last forever.

    Emperor Diocletian’s Tetrarchy—rule of four—is a divided empire. He took the imperial throne in A.D. 284. In November 285 he appointed Caesar his trusted colleagues Maximian, and in 1 April 286 he raised him to the rank of Augustus and put him on a joint rulership, dividing the empire’s administrative regions into west with Maximian ruling with a new capital city in Milan not in Rome, and east with Diocletian ruling as senior Emperor with veto power whose capital is in Nicomedia. Thus, fulfilling Nebuchadnezzar’s dream of the statue’s two feet, left and right at the end of the 4th empire, which means that the 4th empire will be divided into two; eastern and western empire. Furthermore, each foot also was divided into two because of the presence of clay mixed with iron on both feet making the empire divided into four rulers, two rulers in the eastern region (left foot) and two rulers in the western region (right foot) and with both of the two regions has its own weak ruler (clay) and strong ruler (iron).

    In 1 March A.D. 293 Emperor Diocletian formally subdivided the empire into four administrative regions; two in the east with him ruling in his capital in Nicomedia, raised Galerius (the little horn in Daniel 7:8 & 20) to the rank of Caesar and designated him deputy emperor to rule in his own capital in Sirmium; similarly, Maximian raised Constantius to the rank of Caesar, appointed him deputy emperor to rule the northwestern region whose capital was Trier.

    A divided empire, isn’t it?

    Check Daniel 2:41;
    •41 You saw that the feet and toes were partly clay and partly iron. This means that it will be a divided empire.

    Caesar Galerius (the little horn) is married to Emperor Diocletian’s daughter Galleria Valeria, while Caesar Constantius set aside his wife Helena (mother of Constantine) to marry Emperor Maximian’s stepdaughter Theodora. Emperor Maximian’s son Maxentius married Caesar Galerius daughter Valeria Maximilla, while Constantius’ son Constantine married Emperor Maximian’s daughter Fausta. When Galerius became emperor because of the resignation of the two senior emperors; one of his two protégé Emperor Severus II was defeated and killed by the forces of Rome’s usurper, Maxentius. He appointed emperor of the west another protégé ; his friend Licinius. Upon Galerius’ death in May A.D. 311 from a horrible cancer. Licinius became apprehensive of Galerius nephew, Emperor Maximinus Daia of the east. He allied himself with Constantine; the emperor of the west, by marrying Constantine’s half sister Constantia, recognizing Constantine as a senior emperor while planning to take the east from Maximinus Daia with a help from Constantine.

    Aren’t these the fulfillment of Daniel 2:43?
    •43 You also saw that the iron was mixed with the clay. This means that the rulers of that empire will try to unite their families by intermarriages, but they will not be able to, any more than iron can mix with clay.

  • Armando Rances

    It was in the winter of A.D. 302-303 that the son of a devout pagan priestess Romulla, the die-hard-pagan eastern deputy Emperor Caesar Galerius (the little Horn) who hated the Christians argued hard for an anti-Christian campaign that the reluctant Emperor Diocletian finally conceded and promulgated four (4) anti-Christian edicts. Hence, the last and the worst of the persecutions were suffered by the Christians in the eastern regions.

    Early in A.D. 305 the ailing Emperor Diocletian was considering to relinquish his throne in favor of his deputy emperor Caesar Galerius (the little horn), which the ambitious Caesar take the opportunity to convince his master to ask his co-emperor in the west (Maximian) to resign altogether both their imperial throne to give way to their deputies to rule as emperors. Galerius went further; convincing Diocletian to appoint as new Caesars, Galerius’ protégés. In 1 May A.D. 305, Emperors Diocletian and Maximian resigned as emperors and the two Caesars, Constantius and Galerius (the little horn) became emperors with the rank of Augustus, while Galerius’ protégés, Severus II and Maximinus Daia (Galerius’ Nephew) became Caesars and deputy emperors.

    Isn’t it clear that the two (2) emperors Diocletian and Maximian of the east and west who resigned their throne were the clay part (weak part) on the feet of the statue of Nebuchadnezzar’s dream that Daniel interpreted in Daniel 2:42, while the new emperors, Galerius (the little horn) and Constantius were the iron part (strong part)?

    Here’s Daniel 2:42;
    •42 The toes—partly clay and partly iron—means part of that empire will be strong and partly weak.

    Isn’t this time of these rulers that God of heaven will establish a Kingdom that will never end, will never be conquered and will completely destroy all those kingdoms and then last forever? (Daniel 2:44)

    While two of the four founders of the Roman Tetrarchy resigned already, two (2) still remains in control of the tetrarchy, Constantius and Galerius (the little horn). The later is of great advantage to the empire because the two deputy emperors were his protégés. On 25 July A.D. 306 Emperor Constantius died suddenly in York, Britanniae; perhaps of anemia due to his pale (chlorus) color. His Legions immediately proclaimed his son Constantine, Emperor of the west which undermined Emperor Galerius’ ambition to have supreme control on the west by installing Severus II emperor of the western region.

    The resignation of the two (2) former emperors (Diocletian and Maximiam) and the death of Constantius, constitutes a fall of the three (3) of the four founding rulers of the divided empire, while the remaining one Emperor Galerius—the instigator of the last great persecution—struggled hard to muster control over the whole Roman Empire.

    Simple Arithmitic: 1 little horn that came up stronger + 3 horns that falls = 4 horns

    Isn’t it a tetrarchy—rule of four? The Roman Tetrarchy that the Christians suffered the tenth (10th) and last persecution since Emperor Nero, where the eleventh persecuting ruler Caesar Galerius (the little horn of Daniel’s 4th beast and the 10th horn of the beast (Nero) of the Apocalypse) instigated his master Emperor Diocletian—who reluctantly affirmed—to persecute his hated Christians.

    Weren’t these the fulfillment of Daniel 7: 8 & 20-27?

    •8 While I was staring at the horns I saw a little horn coming up among the others. It tore out three of the horns that were already there. This horn had human eyes and a mouth that was boasting proudly.

    •20 And I wanted to know about the ten horns on its head and the horn that came up afterward and had made three of the horns fall. It had eyes and a mouth and was boasting proudly. It was more terrifying than any of the others.
    •21 While I was looking, that horn made war on God’s people and conquered them. 22 The one who had been living forever came and pronounced judgment in favor of the people of the supreme God. The time had arrived for God’s people to receive royal power.

    •24 The ten horns are ten kings who will rule that empire. Then another king will appear: he will be very different from the earlier ones and will overthrow three kings. 25 He will speak against the Supreme God and oppress God’s people. He will try to change their religious laws and festivals, and God’s people will be under his power for three and a half years. 26 Then the heavenly court will sit in judgment, take away his power, and destroy him completely. 27 The power and greatness of all the kingdoms on earth will be given to the people of the living God. Their royal power will never end, and all rulers on earth will serve and obey them.

  • Armando Rances

    It was in the winter of A.D. 302-303 that the son of a devout pagan priestess Romulla, the die-hard-pagan eastern deputy Emperor Caesar Galerius (the little Horn) who hated the Christians argued hard for an anti-Christian campaign that the reluctant Emperor Diocletian finally conceded and promulgated four (4) anti-Christian edicts. Hence, the last and the worst of the persecutions were suffered by the Christians in the eastern regions.

    Early in A.D. 305 the ailing Emperor Diocletian was considering to relinquish his throne in favor of his deputy emperor Caesar Galerius (the little horn), which the ambitious Caesar take the opportunity to convince his master to ask his co-emperor in the west (Maximian) to resign altogether both their imperial throne to give way to their deputies to rule as emperors. Galerius went further; convincing Diocletian to appoint as new Caesars, Galerius’ protégés. In 1 May A.D. 305, Emperors Diocletian and Maximian resigned as emperors and the two Caesars, Constantius and Galerius (the little horn) became emperors with the rank of Augustus, while Galerius’ protégés, Severus II and Maximinus Daia (Galerius’ Nephew) became Caesars and deputy emperors.

    Isn’t it clear that the two (2) emperors Diocletian and Maximian of the east and west who resigned their throne were the clay part (weak part) on the feet of the statue of Nebuchadnezzar’s dream that Daniel interpreted in Daniel 2:42, while the new emperors, Galerius (the little horn) and Constantius were the iron part (strong part)?

    Here’s Daniel 2:42;
    •42 The toes—partly clay and partly iron—means part of that empire will be strong and partly weak.

    Isn’t this time of these rulers that God of heaven will establish a Kingdom that will never end, will never be conquered and will completely destroy all those kingdoms and then last forever? (Daniel 2:44)

    While two of the four founders of the Roman Tetrarchy resigned already, two (2) still remains in control of the tetrarchy, Constantius and Galerius (the little horn). The later is of great advantage to the empire because the two deputy emperors were his protégés. On 25 July A.D. 306 Emperor Constantius died suddenly in York, Britanniae; perhaps of anemia due to his pale (chlorus) color. His Legions immediately proclaimed his son Constantine, Emperor of the west which undermined Emperor Galerius’ ambition to have supreme control on the west by installing Severus II emperor of the western region.

    The resignation of the two (2) former emperors (Diocletian and Maximiam) and the death of Constantius, constitutes a fall of the three (3) of the four founding rulers of the divided empire, while the remaining one Emperor Galerius—the instigator of the last great persecution—struggled hard to muster control over the whole Roman Empire.

    Simple Arithmitic: 1 little horn that came up stronger + 3 horns that falls = 4 horns

    Isn’t it a tetrarchy—rule of four? The Roman Tetrarchy that the Christians suffered the tenth (10th) and last persecution since Emperor Nero, where the eleventh persecuting ruler Caesar Galerius (the little horn of Daniel’s 4th beast and the 10th horn of the beast (Nero) of the Apocalypse) instigated his master Emperor Diocletian—who reluctantly affirmed—to persecute his hated Christians.

    Weren’t these the fulfillment of Daniel 7: 8 & 20-27?

    •8 While I was staring at the horns I saw a little horn coming up among the others. It tore out three of the horns that were already there. This horn had human eyes and a mouth that was boasting proudly.

    •20 And I wanted to know about the ten horns on its head and the horn that came up afterward and had made three of the horns fall. It had eyes and a mouth and was boasting proudly. It was more terrifying than any of the others.
    •21 While I was looking, that horn made war on God’s people and conquered them. 22 The one who had been living forever came and pronounced judgment in favor of the people of the supreme God. The time had arrived for God’s people to receive royal power.

    •24 The ten horns are ten kings who will rule that empire. Then another king will appear: he will be very different from the earlier ones and will overthrow three kings. 25 He will speak against the Supreme God and oppress God’s people. He will try to change their religious laws and festivals, and God’s people will be under his power for three and a half years. 26 Then the heavenly court will sit in judgment, take away his power, and destroy him completely. 27 The power and greatness of all the kingdoms on earth will be given to the people of the living God. Their royal power will never end, and all rulers on earth will serve and obey them.

  • Armando Rances

    Emperor Constantine son of the devout Christian Helena started his campaign against the other rulers of the tetrarchy. He defeated first the usurper of Rome, his brother-in-law Maxentius. Although outnumbered, Constantine’s use of the cross which he saw in a vision of the setting sun—with inscriptions “IN HOC SIGNO VINCES” (In this sign conquer), and the Labarum—a battle standard bearing a painted secret Christian sign of superimposed Greek letters chi-rho (xP) (abbreviation for Christos [Christ]) that was revealed to him in a dream a day before the battle of the Milvian Bridge—proved auspicious. He defeated his brother in law and entered Rome to the joy of the long persecuted Christians.

    The success of Constantine’s campaign using the cross and the labarum as his battle standards proved the fear of that pagan lunatic Emperor Galerius; that there exist a large population of Christians within the Roman empire that will put his traditional pagan religion in danger of being overthrown by the Christians in the near future. The inscription in Constantine’s labarum that God revealed to him in a dream a day before the battle of Milvian Bridge in 28 October 312 was a secret Christian symbol; a countersign that identifies their secret society.

    Will the persecuted Christians under the command of Constantine’s opponent fight an opponent whose surprising banners, standards and shields were painted with their very own secret countersign, the symbolism of their Lord? Won’t they realize that the enemy army displaying the labarum, and with the secret symbol of their Lord painted on the shields of the opposite army was a sign of their coming deliverance from a long time of oppression? Won’t they realize that the opponent army of Constantine was actually God’s army sent to end their sufferings from their pagan rulers? What will the Christians on the opposite side do when their Lord’s army engages them in battle?

    Well, Constantine’s victory proves a massive Christian desertion from his opponent’s ranks. Some non-Christian scholars try to disprove the use of the cross and the superimposed chi-rho sign by Christians before Constantine’s time for lack of evidence of its use before that. The fact is that, the cross and chi-rho sign is a secret Christian countersign—abbreviations of Greek Christos—that they used to identify their secret society. Will the furiously persecuted Christians before that time of Constantine provide an evidence of their secret countersign for the pagan informers to break into? Of course not! The wisdom why God commands Constantine, the son of his devout servant Helena to paint the Christian countersign on his army’s shields and banners is to surprise the Christians; making them understand that Constantine’s army is their Lord Jesus Christ’s army sent them by their God, and to herald the Christians that the kingdom of their Lord is within reach already and that they must come out because their population is large enough to initiate a political stalemate with their pagan oppressors. The Christians before and during Constantine’s time are aware of those secret countersigns; otherwise, why did God command Constantine to paint those signs; to serve as an amulet that will give them good luck?

    Another proof of large Christian population ready for harvest at that time in history was manifested in the battle on the plain of the River Ergenus in Thrace (30 April A.D. 313) between Emperor Licinius and Emperor Maximinus Daia were Constantine allowed his pagan brother in law, Licinius to use the labarum as his battle standard. Maximinus—who vowed to eradicate Christianity if his pagan god gave him victory—having the advantage of more than double the army of Licinius (70,000 men versus 30,000 men), was defeated when many of his soldier deserted him and flee, while many more surrendered to Licinius.

    A final showdown between the pagan Emperor Licinius and Christian Emperor Constantine happen in 3 July 324 in Hadrianopolis. Licinius on the advantage of 150,000 infantry and 15,000 cavalry over Constantine’s 120,000 infantry and 12,000 cavalry was defeated, and fled the battle field. By the end of September 324 Licinius surrender to Constantine. This left Constantine the sole master of the Roman Empire and secular protector of Christians.

    Since then, the Christians gain political stalemate with the powerful pagan rulers of the Roman Empire and gradually converted the Roman Empire to Christianity despite widespread black propaganda and apostasy of some misguided Christians. It was the missionary sent by the Roman Catholic Church to all the nations of the world that fruitfully fulfilled Daniel 2:35:

    •35 But the stone grew to be a mountain that covers the whole earth.

  • Armando Rances

    Emperor Constantine son of the devout Christian Helena started his campaign against the other rulers of the tetrarchy. He defeated first the usurper of Rome, his brother-in-law Maxentius. Although outnumbered, Constantine’s use of the cross which he saw in a vision of the setting sun—with inscriptions “IN HOC SIGNO VINCES” (In this sign conquer), and the Labarum—a battle standard bearing a painted secret Christian sign of superimposed Greek letters chi-rho (xP) (abbreviation for Christos [Christ]) that was revealed to him in a dream a day before the battle of the Milvian Bridge—proved auspicious. He defeated his brother in law and entered Rome to the joy of the long persecuted Christians.

    The success of Constantine’s campaign using the cross and the labarum as his battle standards proved the fear of that pagan lunatic Emperor Galerius; that there exist a large population of Christians within the Roman empire that will put his traditional pagan religion in danger of being overthrown by the Christians in the near future. The inscription in Constantine’s labarum that God revealed to him in a dream a day before the battle of Milvian Bridge in 28 October 312 was a secret Christian symbol; a countersign that identifies their secret society.

    Will the persecuted Christians under the command of Constantine’s opponent fight an opponent whose surprising banners, standards and shields were painted with their very own secret countersign, the symbolism of their Lord? Won’t they realize that the enemy army displaying the labarum, and with the secret symbol of their Lord painted on the shields of the opposite army was a sign of their coming deliverance from a long time of oppression? Won’t they realize that the opponent army of Constantine was actually God’s army sent to end their sufferings from their pagan rulers? What will the Christians on the opposite side do when their Lord’s army engages them in battle?

    Well, Constantine’s victory proves a massive Christian desertion from his opponent’s ranks. Some non-Christian scholars try to disprove the use of the cross and the superimposed chi-rho sign by Christians before Constantine’s time for lack of evidence of its use before that. The fact is that, the cross and chi-rho sign is a secret Christian countersign—abbreviations of Greek Christos—that they used to identify their secret society. Will the furiously persecuted Christians before that time of Constantine provide an evidence of their secret countersign for the pagan informers to break into? Of course not! The wisdom why God commands Constantine, the son of his devout servant Helena to paint the Christian countersign on his army’s shields and banners is to surprise the Christians; making them understand that Constantine’s army is their Lord Jesus Christ’s army sent them by their God, and to herald the Christians that the kingdom of their Lord is within reach already and that they must come out because their population is large enough to initiate a political stalemate with their pagan oppressors. The Christians before and during Constantine’s time are aware of those secret countersigns; otherwise, why did God command Constantine to paint those signs; to serve as an amulet that will give them good luck?

    Another proof of large Christian population ready for harvest at that time in history was manifested in the battle on the plain of the River Ergenus in Thrace (30 April A.D. 313) between Emperor Licinius and Emperor Maximinus Daia were Constantine allowed his pagan brother in law, Licinius to use the labarum as his battle standard. Maximinus—who vowed to eradicate Christianity if his pagan god gave him victory—having the advantage of more than double the army of Licinius (70,000 men versus 30,000 men), was defeated when many of his soldier deserted him and flee, while many more surrendered to Licinius.

    A final showdown between the pagan Emperor Licinius and Christian Emperor Constantine happen in 3 July 324 in Hadrianopolis. Licinius on the advantage of 150,000 infantry and 15,000 cavalry over Constantine’s 120,000 infantry and 12,000 cavalry was defeated, and fled the battle field. By the end of September 324 Licinius surrender to Constantine. This left Constantine the sole master of the Roman Empire and secular protector of Christians.

    Since then, the Christians gain political stalemate with the powerful pagan rulers of the Roman Empire and gradually converted the Roman Empire to Christianity despite widespread black propaganda and apostasy of some misguided Christians. It was the missionary sent by the Roman Catholic Church to all the nations of the world that fruitfully fulfilled Daniel 2:35:

    •35 But the stone grew to be a mountain that covers the whole earth.

  • Armando Rances

    TEN HORNS OF NERO, THE BEAST
    Nero the 5th head of the 1st beast was the first persecutor of Christians. After him ten (10) more emperors of Rome whose rule has not come yet (Daniel 17:12) will revive the persecution of Christians whether intentional or for political survival as it symbolizes the ten horns—ten (10) Nero-likes rulers of Rome—of the beast.
    Check Apocalypse 17: 11-14.
    •11 And the beast that was once alive, but lives no longer, is itself an eighth king who is one of the seven and is going off to be destroyed.
    •12 The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet begun to rule, but who will be given authority to rule as kings for one hour with the beast.
    •13 These ten all have the same purpose, and they give their power and authority to the beast.
    •14 “They will fight against the Lamb; but the Lamb, together with his called, chosen, and faithful followers, will defeat them, because he is Lord of lords and King of kings.”
    1ST HORN—Emperor Domitian (A.D. 81-96)
    2ND HORN—Emperor Trajan (A.D. 98-117)
    3RD HORN—Emperor Marcus Aurelius (A.D. 161-180)
    4TH HORN—Emperor Septimus Severus (A.D. 193-211)
    5TH HORN—Emperor Maximinus the Thracian (A.D. 235-238)
    6TH HORN—Emperor Decius (A.D. 249-251)
    7TH HORN—Emperor Valerian (A.D. 253-260)
    8TH HORN—Emperor Aurelian (A.D. 270-275)
    9TH HORN—Emperor Diocletian (A.D 284-305)
    10TH HORN—Emperor Galerius (A.D. 305-311)
    It’s for you Mr. Artaxerxes to find out why these ten (10) Roman Emperors were the 10 horns of the beast with seven heads in which the prostitute sits. It will help you understand the real thing so that you will not be left behind hallucinating and prophesying funny fictions.
    Ancient Imperial Rome—code named Babylon—was the Prostitute who sits on the red beast with 7 heads and 10 horns.
    But let’s make it clear that as far as ancient Roman law is concern, Rome is an independent City-State confined within its walls, and within it, located an inviolable pagan sacred perimeter called pomerium. Any land outside Rome’s walls, by Roman law, is a territory belonging to the Roman State.
    During the first wave of Christian persecution by Nero, the Christians were martyred on the Vatican area more than a mile away from the walls of Rome because it’s prohibited by Roman sacred law to kill or execute anyone within Rome for that will constitute a sacrilege of their pomerium. Julius Caesar was assassinated within Pompeii’s Theater on the Campus Martius outside Rome’s Servian Wall.
    The wisdom behind the code name “Babylon” for Rome by Christ’s apostles is that, what the Babylonians did to Jerusalem in 586 BC.—destroyed the city, burned the temple and subjugated the Jews—the Romans shall have done the same in AD 70 as Jesus told his apostles looking at the magnificent temple of Jerusalem “not a single stone will remain standing on its place”. The early Christians used code words or symbols to prevent pagan Roman authorities and their informers from breaking into their secrets. Apocalypse 17 made it clear that the prostitute is the great city who rules the earth, sitting on seven hills for which Rome is known for.

  • Armando Rances

    TEN HORNS OF NERO, THE BEAST
    Nero the 5th head of the 1st beast was the first persecutor of Christians. After him ten (10) more emperors of Rome whose rule has not come yet (Daniel 17:12) will revive the persecution of Christians whether intentional or for political survival as it symbolizes the ten horns—ten (10) Nero-likes rulers of Rome—of the beast.
    Check Apocalypse 17: 11-14.
    •11 And the beast that was once alive, but lives no longer, is itself an eighth king who is one of the seven and is going off to be destroyed.
    •12 The ten horns you saw are ten kings who have not yet begun to rule, but who will be given authority to rule as kings for one hour with the beast.
    •13 These ten all have the same purpose, and they give their power and authority to the beast.
    •14 “They will fight against the Lamb; but the Lamb, together with his called, chosen, and faithful followers, will defeat them, because he is Lord of lords and King of kings.”
    1ST HORN—Emperor Domitian (A.D. 81-96)
    2ND HORN—Emperor Trajan (A.D. 98-117)
    3RD HORN—Emperor Marcus Aurelius (A.D. 161-180)
    4TH HORN—Emperor Septimus Severus (A.D. 193-211)
    5TH HORN—Emperor Maximinus the Thracian (A.D. 235-238)
    6TH HORN—Emperor Decius (A.D. 249-251)
    7TH HORN—Emperor Valerian (A.D. 253-260)
    8TH HORN—Emperor Aurelian (A.D. 270-275)
    9TH HORN—Emperor Diocletian (A.D 284-305)
    10TH HORN—Emperor Galerius (A.D. 305-311)
    It’s for you Mr. Artaxerxes to find out why these ten (10) Roman Emperors were the 10 horns of the beast with seven heads in which the prostitute sits. It will help you understand the real thing so that you will not be left behind hallucinating and prophesying funny fictions.
    Ancient Imperial Rome—code named Babylon—was the Prostitute who sits on the red beast with 7 heads and 10 horns.
    But let’s make it clear that as far as ancient Roman law is concern, Rome is an independent City-State confined within its walls, and within it, located an inviolable pagan sacred perimeter called pomerium. Any land outside Rome’s walls, by Roman law, is a territory belonging to the Roman State.
    During the first wave of Christian persecution by Nero, the Christians were martyred on the Vatican area more than a mile away from the walls of Rome because it’s prohibited by Roman sacred law to kill or execute anyone within Rome for that will constitute a sacrilege of their pomerium. Julius Caesar was assassinated within Pompeii’s Theater on the Campus Martius outside Rome’s Servian Wall.
    The wisdom behind the code name “Babylon” for Rome by Christ’s apostles is that, what the Babylonians did to Jerusalem in 586 BC.—destroyed the city, burned the temple and subjugated the Jews—the Romans shall have done the same in AD 70 as Jesus told his apostles looking at the magnificent temple of Jerusalem “not a single stone will remain standing on its place”. The early Christians used code words or symbols to prevent pagan Roman authorities and their informers from breaking into their secrets. Apocalypse 17 made it clear that the prostitute is the great city who rules the earth, sitting on seven hills for which Rome is known for.

  • Armando Rances

    Let me check a typographical error on the ISBN of the dictionary I mentioned. The correct one is: ISBN 9710817868. It’s a red “WEBSTER’S NEW SCHOOL & OFFICE DICTIONARY.”

    Religiously speaking; Satan has been dethroned already from his Pomerium in Rome. Satan’s spiritual pomerium no longer exist in the former city of the seven hills for it was already breached and consecrated by the Christians in the name of Christ. Through the advocacy of Saint Ambrose, Bishop of Milan who encourages Emperor Theodosius to block the restoration to the senate house the pagan “Altar of Victory”, Theodosius came with the idea of putting into a senate vote on whose worship is to be the religion of the Romans; Jupiter or Christ? In A.D. 388, after a heated argumentation and deliberation the Roman Senate though still controlled by pagan majority, by divine intervention or by enlightenment that cause a doubt of their traditional God, cast an extraordinary majority vote that condemned and degraded their primary god Jupiter in favor of Christ; leading to the proscription of pagan religion throughout the Roman Empire. Though implementation of the code of Theodosius was slow because it’s difficult for the pagans to just abandon their traditional god, later, wisdom prevails that they finally realize the senselessness of worshipping god of questionable origin. Later on, the Trinitarian Christianity—belief on three aspect of one God; the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit— which the Roman Catholic Church Championed, against the Unitarian Christians (Christians who rejects the divinity of Christ) spread triumphantly worldwide through the apostolate of the Roman Catholic Church fulfilling God’s message to Nebuchadnezzar:
    •But the stone grew to be a mountain that covered the whole earth. (Daniel 2:35)
    •At the time of those rulers the God of heaven will establish a kingdom that will never end. It will never be conquered, but will completely destroy all those empires and then last forever. (Daniel 2:44)
    The Unitarian Christians together with other Heretic Christians like the Donatist etc. were almost wipe out by the Islamic invasion of the Middle East, Africa and Europe making most of them converted to Islam having a common belief in one God and demoted Christ to the rank of a prophet, while the Trinitarian defended to death the divinity of Christ, never surrendered their faith; proof to that is their long time of existence in Islamic regions in the Middle east, Africa and part of Europe dominated by Moslems.
    Rome is no longer the prostitute like before the Christians conquered its domain. Christ’s victory over her pomerium, her false religion and Satan—the lord of lies, deceit and misinformation—was already complete.
    The Lord Jesus Christ never abandoned his Church; it will never be defeated by any other religion or any entity misusing science to shield its demonic purpose. Several centuries of smear campaign and black propaganda against the Roman Catholic Church has not cause any remarkable harm on it. It remains the authentic Christian Church worldwide that is founded on solid rock foundations.

  • Armando Rances

    Let me check a typographical error on the ISBN of the dictionary I mentioned. The correct one is: ISBN 9710817868. It’s a red “WEBSTER’S NEW SCHOOL & OFFICE DICTIONARY.”

    Religiously speaking; Satan has been dethroned already from his Pomerium in Rome. Satan’s spiritual pomerium no longer exist in the former city of the seven hills for it was already breached and consecrated by the Christians in the name of Christ. Through the advocacy of Saint Ambrose, Bishop of Milan who encourages Emperor Theodosius to block the restoration to the senate house the pagan “Altar of Victory”, Theodosius came with the idea of putting into a senate vote on whose worship is to be the religion of the Romans; Jupiter or Christ? In A.D. 388, after a heated argumentation and deliberation the Roman Senate though still controlled by pagan majority, by divine intervention or by enlightenment that cause a doubt of their traditional God, cast an extraordinary majority vote that condemned and degraded their primary god Jupiter in favor of Christ; leading to the proscription of pagan religion throughout the Roman Empire. Though implementation of the code of Theodosius was slow because it’s difficult for the pagans to just abandon their traditional god, later, wisdom prevails that they finally realize the senselessness of worshipping god of questionable origin. Later on, the Trinitarian Christianity—belief on three aspect of one God; the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit— which the Roman Catholic Church Championed, against the Unitarian Christians (Christians who rejects the divinity of Christ) spread triumphantly worldwide through the apostolate of the Roman Catholic Church fulfilling God’s message to Nebuchadnezzar:
    •But the stone grew to be a mountain that covered the whole earth. (Daniel 2:35)
    •At the time of those rulers the God of heaven will establish a kingdom that will never end. It will never be conquered, but will completely destroy all those empires and then last forever. (Daniel 2:44)
    The Unitarian Christians together with other Heretic Christians like the Donatist etc. were almost wipe out by the Islamic invasion of the Middle East, Africa and Europe making most of them converted to Islam having a common belief in one God and demoted Christ to the rank of a prophet, while the Trinitarian defended to death the divinity of Christ, never surrendered their faith; proof to that is their long time of existence in Islamic regions in the Middle east, Africa and part of Europe dominated by Moslems.
    Rome is no longer the prostitute like before the Christians conquered its domain. Christ’s victory over her pomerium, her false religion and Satan—the lord of lies, deceit and misinformation—was already complete.
    The Lord Jesus Christ never abandoned his Church; it will never be defeated by any other religion or any entity misusing science to shield its demonic purpose. Several centuries of smear campaign and black propaganda against the Roman Catholic Church has not cause any remarkable harm on it. It remains the authentic Christian Church worldwide that is founded on solid rock foundations.

  • IAn

    "Several centuries of smear campaign and black propaganda against the Roman Catholic Church has not cause any remarkable harm on it"

    This is because it has been preserved for the Judgement spoken of in REV 17 and 18.
    You can critisise the interpretation if you want, but either way, it is the truth, that is almost upon us.

  • IAn

    "Several centuries of smear campaign and black propaganda against the Roman Catholic Church has not cause any remarkable harm on it"

    This is because it has been preserved for the Judgement spoken of in REV 17 and 18.
    You can critisise the interpretation if you want, but either way, it is the truth, that is almost upon us.

  • Armando Rances

    Hi Ian!

    Thanks for your response.

    If it is God’s will to destroy Rome, or even if that includes the Vatican City. I have no objection to that. It is said in Rev. 16:20 that, “all islands disappeared and all mountains vanished”. No one has the right to question the will of the supreme creator. The important thing was that the Roman Catholic Church successfully fulfilled it’s duty to evangelized the world in the way it was prophesied in Daniel 2:35; ”But the stone grew to be mountain that cover the whole earth.

    You mentioned Rev. 17 and 18. Perhaps you mean Rev. 17:1-2 and Rev. 18:1-24. Rev. 18:21 specifically means Babylon; the Prostitute or the Great City will be thrown down to sink to oblivion.

    The problem with those who published their poor speculative interpretation to the prophesies of John’s book of Revelation is that their published materials are obviously biased; intended to blot or destroy the Catholic Church; some seems to have a very limited knowledge of the history of peoples and places involved. Others may have wide knowledge or well versed in history, but short of discerning ability to connect past history with that of the prophesy

    John’s allegorical terms “Prostitute,” “Babylon,” or “The Great City” in the book of Revelation in an instance, point to the same thing—Rome. I won’t dispute that. But there seems to be two (2) things that were under attacked here; Rome—the ruling city, and Dea Roma (Goddess Rome)—the goddess invented by the Romans to personify Rome and the Roman state as well, and whose statue—dressed in purple and scarlet, wearing Greco-Roman helmet, jeweled with gold, silver, precious stones and pearls—was then enthroned on her temple in the lucrative Roman commercial city Ephesus, where John was the bishop of the church at that time. Choirs regularly sing and musicians regularly played music and panegyric offered and delivered for her in her image in the temple. Aside from Rome, the statue of this deity was probably what John code-named “Prostitute,” “Babylon” and “Great City.” There are two other cities on records under John’s jurisdiction of the seven churches of Asia that has a temple and cult of Dea Roma, Pergamum and Smyrna. Other temples of her were constructed in Africa and other European and eastern cities. The construction of the temple of Dea Roma outside Rome’s territory are granted by the rulers of Rome through the request of kings and rulers who were allies of Rome, and under her protection, to show their loyalty to Rome and to pleased the Romans. It was financed by the sovereigns who ask the honor to build the Roman goddess’ temple within their domain. The priesthood to the temple and cult of Dea Roma were competed by local elites to win Roman citizenship. Cults were organized for her worship and regular festival organized in her honor. This is the best way kings and rulers keep their place in their kingdoms and domains. It reminds their enemies that they are under Rome’s protection, and in the same way using her in their immoral ways to stay in power. Naming Rome directly as the subject of the prophesy, by Roman law is seditious; while naming Dea Roma (Goddess Rome) is sacrilege to the goddess; both punishable by death.

    Rome suffered already several fires, earthquakes, famines, plagues and wars ever since John’s time, but still intact. The head quarter of the church, the Vatican City, was separated already from her. But the fate of the goddess Dea Roma seems a fulfillment of both Rev. 17:1-2 and Rev. 18: She sank to oblivion. I’ll bet not even 0.1% of Christians know her existence in the past as a deity. The then commercially powerful Roman city in Asia, Ephesus, where Dea Roma then reigns in her temple was by fate or divine will was doomed to extinction. The Cayster River leading to her harbor silted, rendering Ephesus’ agora an insignificant marketplace. Wealthy business societies left the city and relocated their business to viable cities. In the fourth century the Christians destroyed all pagan statues and temples in Ephesus including that of Dea Roma. The same thing happens to her images and temples in Pergamum and Smyrna. It was on record that in the 10th century, the once commercially powerful Ephesus was totally in ruins, abandoned and isolated. Since then, Dea Roma’s Ephesus became a lonely desolate place in the back of the beyond haunted by demons and unclean spirits; and all kinds of filthy and hateful birds live there. Not a piece of her smashed statue can be identified in that place till now. No more choirs singing for her, nor music or sound of harp, flute and trumpet played for her again, nor trade is found there. Never again the light of lamp seen in her; nor the voices of brides and grooms heard in her.

    Isn’t this a fulfillment of both Rev. 17:1-2 and Rev. 18:1-24?

    The goddess Dea Roma (Goddess Rome)—code-named “The Prostitute,” “Babylon” and The Great City—was indeed lost to oblivion in her former domains. The ruins and rubble of Ephesus and of the temple of Dea Roma can be viewed through the internet.

  • Armando Rances

    Hi Ian!

    Thanks for your response.

    If it is God’s will to destroy Rome, or even if that includes the Vatican City. I have no objection to that. It is said in Rev. 16:20 that, “all islands disappeared and all mountains vanished”. No one has the right to question the will of the supreme creator. The important thing was that the Roman Catholic Church successfully fulfilled it’s duty to evangelized the world in the way it was prophesied in Daniel 2:35; ”But the stone grew to be mountain that cover the whole earth.

    You mentioned Rev. 17 and 18. Perhaps you mean Rev. 17:1-2 and Rev. 18:1-24. Rev. 18:21 specifically means Babylon; the Prostitute or the Great City will be thrown down to sink to oblivion.

    The problem with those who published their poor speculative interpretation to the prophesies of John’s book of Revelation is that their published materials are obviously biased; intended to blot or destroy the Catholic Church; some seems to have a very limited knowledge of the history of peoples and places involved. Others may have wide knowledge or well versed in history, but short of discerning ability to connect past history with that of the prophesy

    John’s allegorical terms “Prostitute,” “Babylon,” or “The Great City” in the book of Revelation in an instance, point to the same thing—Rome. I won’t dispute that. But there seems to be two (2) things that were under attacked here; Rome—the ruling city, and Dea Roma (Goddess Rome)—the goddess invented by the Romans to personify Rome and the Roman state as well, and whose statue—dressed in purple and scarlet, wearing Greco-Roman helmet, jeweled with gold, silver, precious stones and pearls—was then enthroned on her temple in the lucrative Roman commercial city Ephesus, where John was the bishop of the church at that time. Choirs regularly sing and musicians regularly played music and panegyric offered and delivered for her in her image in the temple. Aside from Rome, the statue of this deity was probably what John code-named “Prostitute,” “Babylon” and “Great City.” There are two other cities on records under John’s jurisdiction of the seven churches of Asia that has a temple and cult of Dea Roma, Pergamum and Smyrna. Other temples of her were constructed in Africa and other European and eastern cities. The construction of the temple of Dea Roma outside Rome’s territory are granted by the rulers of Rome through the request of kings and rulers who were allies of Rome, and under her protection, to show their loyalty to Rome and to pleased the Romans. It was financed by the sovereigns who ask the honor to build the Roman goddess’ temple within their domain. The priesthood to the temple and cult of Dea Roma were competed by local elites to win Roman citizenship. Cults were organized for her worship and regular festival organized in her honor. This is the best way kings and rulers keep their place in their kingdoms and domains. It reminds their enemies that they are under Rome’s protection, and in the same way using her in their immoral ways to stay in power. Naming Rome directly as the subject of the prophesy, by Roman law is seditious; while naming Dea Roma (Goddess Rome) is sacrilege to the goddess; both punishable by death.

    Rome suffered already several fires, earthquakes, famines, plagues and wars ever since John’s time, but still intact. The head quarter of the church, the Vatican City, was separated already from her. But the fate of the goddess Dea Roma seems a fulfillment of both Rev. 17:1-2 and Rev. 18: She sank to oblivion. I’ll bet not even 0.1% of Christians know her existence in the past as a deity. The then commercially powerful Roman city in Asia, Ephesus, where Dea Roma then reigns in her temple was by fate or divine will was doomed to extinction. The Cayster River leading to her harbor silted, rendering Ephesus’ agora an insignificant marketplace. Wealthy business societies left the city and relocated their business to viable cities. In the fourth century the Christians destroyed all pagan statues and temples in Ephesus including that of Dea Roma. The same thing happens to her images and temples in Pergamum and Smyrna. It was on record that in the 10th century, the once commercially powerful Ephesus was totally in ruins, abandoned and isolated. Since then, Dea Roma’s Ephesus became a lonely desolate place in the back of the beyond haunted by demons and unclean spirits; and all kinds of filthy and hateful birds live there. Not a piece of her smashed statue can be identified in that place till now. No more choirs singing for her, nor music or sound of harp, flute and trumpet played for her again, nor trade is found there. Never again the light of lamp seen in her; nor the voices of brides and grooms heard in her.

    Isn’t this a fulfillment of both Rev. 17:1-2 and Rev. 18:1-24?

    The goddess Dea Roma (Goddess Rome)—code-named “The Prostitute,” “Babylon” and The Great City—was indeed lost to oblivion in her former domains. The ruins and rubble of Ephesus and of the temple of Dea Roma can be viewed through the internet.

  • Danny Bautista

    You are all wrong and you never understand the scriptures, your interpritations of the holy scriptures is very lightly indeed you are all fallen to a trap of satan. Think the number 666, doesnt lead to name of pope man, The GOD has a very high intelect and our mind doesnt match his capability to think even to the thousand and billions to trillions of angels around him. The only person who could interpret the number 666 is surely a person guided with a holy spirit.

    To make my comment short the number 666 is Lucifer and the number 666 is his year of dominion on earth.

    This is the clue now think……………….

    Year 666 = Birth of Islam

    Year 1332 = Birth of Protestant and all kind of science theories

    Year 1998 = Birth of being materialism and false god

  • Danny Bautista

    You are all wrong and you never understand the scriptures, your interpritations of the holy scriptures is very lightly indeed you are all fallen to a trap of satan. Think the number 666, doesnt lead to name of pope man, The GOD has a very high intelect and our mind doesnt match his capability to think even to the thousand and billions to trillions of angels around him. The only person who could interpret the number 666 is surely a person guided with a holy spirit.

    To make my comment short the number 666 is Lucifer and the number 666 is his year of dominion on earth.

    This is the clue now think……………….

    Year 666 = Birth of Islam

    Year 1332 = Birth of Protestant and all kind of science theories

    Year 1998 = Birth of being materialism and false god

  • Armando Rances

    Hi Danny!

    I'm afraid you won't like my answer.

    Please be factual with your argument and don't depend on unfounded speculations. I do not expect you to tell us that it is the holy spirit or Jesus himself who told that to you. I encountered a lot of people like that who claims they are born again Christians or just Christians. I am a Roman Catholic, so I am a Christian too. It is the Roman Catholic Church who championed the doctrine of the trinity of God, The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit against the Unitarian Christians who rejected the divinity of Jesus. I cannot be fooled by fellow Christians who say's Jesus told me this and the holy spirit told me that if the very statement that they say the holy spirit or Jesus told them is immaterial or out of context.

    The ruler who bears the number 666 passed already during the the 1st century. the clue in in Revelation 13:13-18 is clear; it's a man's name and one of the rulers of the 2nd beast that came out of the earth which happens to be the Flavian Dynasty.

    The birth of Islam was earlier than year 666. Qassim (Mohammad's original name), according to Islamic History start receiving message in the year 610. Hijra (Islamic Exodus to Medina) happen between year 620-622.

    If you are alarmed by the violent imperialistic tendency of some terrorist who are of Islamic origin; well, me too.

    But you must not loose faith in Jesus if you're a Christian. Jesus said, "I will never forsake you". Read carefully Revelation 12, and understand the signs that are portrayed there. If you know the sign of Islam and you're keen enough, you'll see the strong position and the supremacy of Christians.

    I have no comment about the years 1332 and 1998.

  • Armando Rances

    Hi Danny!

    I'm afraid you won't like my answer.

    Please be factual with your argument and don't depend on unfounded speculations. I do not expect you to tell us that it is the holy spirit or Jesus himself who told that to you. I encountered a lot of people like that who claims they are born again Christians or just Christians. I am a Roman Catholic, so I am a Christian too. It is the Roman Catholic Church who championed the doctrine of the trinity of God, The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit against the Unitarian Christians who rejected the divinity of Jesus. I cannot be fooled by fellow Christians who say's Jesus told me this and the holy spirit told me that if the very statement that they say the holy spirit or Jesus told them is immaterial or out of context.

    The ruler who bears the number 666 passed already during the the 1st century. the clue in in Revelation 13:13-18 is clear; it's a man's name and one of the rulers of the 2nd beast that came out of the earth which happens to be the Flavian Dynasty.

    The birth of Islam was earlier than year 666. Qassim (Mohammad's original name), according to Islamic History start receiving message in the year 610. Hijra (Islamic Exodus to Medina) happen between year 620-622.

    If you are alarmed by the violent imperialistic tendency of some terrorist who are of Islamic origin; well, me too.

    But you must not loose faith in Jesus if you're a Christian. Jesus said, "I will never forsake you". Read carefully Revelation 12, and understand the signs that are portrayed there. If you know the sign of Islam and you're keen enough, you'll see the strong position and the supremacy of Christians.

    I have no comment about the years 1332 and 1998.

  • Danny Bautista

    I have already read many interpretations of number 666 ever since the computer was not yet reach my country and I was never convinced the real and truth of interpreatations or meaning until I found this book that previously intend only for priest but fortunately it was published for all faithfull. this Book contains all the secret interpretations of the apocalypse and secret prophecy of the bible. here is the meaning of the number 666 which I extract from the book. "OUR LADY TO MY PRIEST SON"

    ____Read and understand very carefully

    In the 13th Chapter of the apocalypse, this call for wisdom let him who has understanding recon the number of the beast, it represent a human name. and the number in question is 666. With intelligence, illumined by the light of the divine wisdom one can succeed in deciphering from the number 666, the name of the man in this name, indicated by such a number is that of the antichrist.

  • Danny Bautista

    I have already read many interpretations of number 666 ever since the computer was not yet reach my country and I was never convinced the real and truth of interpreatations or meaning until I found this book that previously intend only for priest but fortunately it was published for all faithfull. this Book contains all the secret interpretations of the apocalypse and secret prophecy of the bible. here is the meaning of the number 666 which I extract from the book. "OUR LADY TO MY PRIEST SON"

    ____Read and understand very carefully

    In the 13th Chapter of the apocalypse, this call for wisdom let him who has understanding recon the number of the beast, it represent a human name. and the number in question is 666. With intelligence, illumined by the light of the divine wisdom one can succeed in deciphering from the number 666, the name of the man in this name, indicated by such a number is that of the antichrist.

  • Danny Bautista

    Lucifer the antiest serpent the devil or satan, the red dragon, becomes, in this last time, the anti-Christ. The apostle John already appeared that who ever denied that Jesus Christ is God, that person is the Anti-Christ. The statue or idol, built in honor of the beast to be adored, is the anti Christ.

    Calculate now its number 666 to understand how it indicates the name of the man. The number, 333 indicate the divinity. Lucifer rebel against pride, because he want to put himself against God. 333 is the number that indicate the mystery of God. He who want to put himself above god bears the sign, 666, and consequently this number indicate the name of Lucifer, Satan, that is to say of him who put himself against Christ, of the anti-Christ

  • Danny Bautista

    Lucifer the antiest serpent the devil or satan, the red dragon, becomes, in this last time, the anti-Christ. The apostle John already appeared that who ever denied that Jesus Christ is God, that person is the Anti-Christ. The statue or idol, built in honor of the beast to be adored, is the anti Christ.

    Calculate now its number 666 to understand how it indicates the name of the man. The number, 333 indicate the divinity. Lucifer rebel against pride, because he want to put himself against God. 333 is the number that indicate the mystery of God. He who want to put himself above god bears the sign, 666, and consequently this number indicate the name of Lucifer, Satan, that is to say of him who put himself against Christ, of the anti-Christ

  • Danny Bautista

    333 indicated once, that is to say, for the first time, expresses the mystery of the unity of God. 333 indicated twice, that is to say for the second time indicate the two nature, that of the divine and a human, united in the divine person of Jesus Christ 333 indicated trice, that is to say, for the third time, indicate the mystery of the tree divine person, that is to say, it expresses the mystery of the most holy trinity.

    The number 333, expresses 1, 2 and 3 times expresses the principal mystery of the catholic faith which are №1 the unity and the trinity of God. №2 the incarnation, the passion and death and the resurrection of our lord Jesus Christ.

  • Danny Bautista

    If 333 is the number which indicate the divinity he who wants to put himself above God himself is refereed to by the number 666. 666 indicated once, that is to say, for the first time expresses the year 666.Six Hundred and Sixty Six. In this period of history, the Ant-Christ is manifested through the phenomenon of Islam, which directly denied the mystery of the divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ. Islamism, with its military force break loose everywhere, destroying all the ancient Christian community and invades Europe and it is only through my extra ordinary motherly intervention begged powerfully by holy father that’s if that not succeed in destroying Christianity completely.

    666 indicated twice, that is to say, for the second time, expresses the year 1332, thirteen hundred and thirty two. In this period of history the anti-Christ is manifested through the radical attack on faith of word parola of God. Through the philosopher who begin to give exclusive value to science and then to reason there is a gradual tendency to constitute human intelligence alone as the sole criterion of truth. There come to birth the great philosophical error which continues through the centuries down through your days.

  • Danny Bautista

    333 indicated once, that is to say, for the first time, expresses the mystery of the unity of God. 333 indicated twice, that is to say for the second time indicate the two nature, that of the divine and a human, united in the divine person of Jesus Christ 333 indicated trice, that is to say, for the third time, indicate the mystery of the tree divine person, that is to say, it expresses the mystery of the most holy trinity.

    The number 333, expresses 1, 2 and 3 times expresses the principal mystery of the catholic faith which are №1 the unity and the trinity of God. №2 the incarnation, the passion and death and the resurrection of our lord Jesus Christ.

  • Danny Bautista

    If 333 is the number which indicate the divinity he who wants to put himself above God himself is refereed to by the number 666. 666 indicated once, that is to say, for the first time expresses the year 666.Six Hundred and Sixty Six. In this period of history, the Ant-Christ is manifested through the phenomenon of Islam, which directly denied the mystery of the divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ. Islamism, with its military force break loose everywhere, destroying all the ancient Christian community and invades Europe and it is only through my extra ordinary motherly intervention begged powerfully by holy father that’s if that not succeed in destroying Christianity completely.

    666 indicated twice, that is to say, for the second time, expresses the year 1332, thirteen hundred and thirty two. In this period of history the anti-Christ is manifested through the radical attack on faith of word parola of God. Through the philosopher who begin to give exclusive value to science and then to reason there is a gradual tendency to constitute human intelligence alone as the sole criterion of truth. There come to birth the great philosophical error which continues through the centuries down through your days.

  • Danny Bautista

    666 indicated trice, that is to say for the third time, expressed the year 1998, nineteen hundred ninety eight. In this period of history, Freemasonry assisted by the ecclesiastical form will succeed in its great design; that of setting up an idol to put in the place of Christ and his church a false Christ and a false church, consequently the statue built in honor of the first beast to be adored by the all inhabitants of the

  • Danny Bautista

    The exaggerated importance given to reason as an explosive criterion of truth, necessarily to the destruction of the word (parola) of God. Indeed, with the protestant reformation, tradition is rejected as a source of divine revelation and only sacred scriptures are accepted. But even this must be interpreted by means of the reason, and the authentic magesterium of the hierarchical church, to which Christ has entrusted the guardianship of the deposit of faith, is obstinately rejected. Each one is free to read and understand Sacred Scripture according to ones personal interpretation. In this way, faith in the word of (parola) of God is destroyed. The work of the Antichrist in this period of history is the division of the church and the consequent formation of new and numerous Christian confessions with gradually become driven to a more and more extensive loss of the true faith in the word (parola) of God.

  • Danny Bautista

    The exaggerated importance given to reason as an explosive criterion of truth, necessarily to the destruction of the word (parola) of God. Indeed, with the protestant reformation, tradition is rejected as a source of divine revelation and only sacred scriptures are accepted. But even this must be interpreted by means of the reason, and the authentic magesterium of the hierarchical church, to which Christ has entrusted the guardianship of the deposit of faith, is obstinately rejected. Each one is free to read and understand Sacred Scripture according to ones personal interpretation. In this way, faith in the word of (parola) of God is destroyed. The work of the Antichrist in this period of history is the division of the church and the consequent formation of new and numerous Christian confessions with gradually become driven to a more and more extensive loss of the true faith in the word (parola) of God.

  • Danny Bautista

    666 indicated trice, that is to say for the third time, expressed the year 1998, nineteen hundred ninety eight. In this period of history, Freemasonry assisted by the ecclesiastical form will succeed in its great design; that of setting up an idol to put in the place of Christ and his church a false Christ and a false church, consequently the statue built in honor of the first beast to be adored by the all inhabitants of the

  • Danny Bautista

    earth and which seal with its mark all those who want to buy or sell is that the Anti-Christ. You have thus arrived at the peak of the purification, of the great tribulation and the apostasy. The apostasy will be as of then generalized because almost will follow the false Christ and the false church. Then the door will be open for the appearance of the man or the very person of the Antichrist.

    This is why little children I have wanted you to enlightened you concerning the pages of the apocalypse which reefer to the times you are living through this is to prepare you to me for the most painful and decisive part of the great struggle which is on the point of being fought out between your heavenly mother and all forces of evil which have been let loose.

  • Danny Bautista

    earth and which seal with its mark all those who want to buy or sell is that the Anti-Christ. You have thus arrived at the peak of the purification, of the great tribulation and the apostasy. The apostasy will be as of then generalized because almost will follow the false Christ and the false church. Then the door will be open for the appearance of the man or the very person of the Antichrist.

    This is why little children I have wanted you to enlightened you concerning the pages of the apocalypse which reefer to the times you are living through this is to prepare you to me for the most painful and decisive part of the great struggle which is on the point of being fought out between your heavenly mother and all forces of evil which have been let loose.

  • Danny Bautista

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  • Danny Bautista

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  • Danny Bautista

    This message came from the only person who is seated at the right hand of Jesus christ and believe me or not she is……….and that is the truth………

    The book opened the key on the explanations and secret of the apocalypse and all the prophecy, If you want to know the whole explanations of the apocalypse feel free to find this book beacuse the supply is very limited and almost no more today. The truth will seat you free,

    REMEMBER: "BE AFRAID TO KNOW IS SIN AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT"….

    Thank you for reading I hope you are all inlightined

  • Danny Bautista

    This message came from the only person who is seated at the right hand of Jesus christ and believe me or not she is……….and that is the truth………

    The book opened the key on the explanations and secret of the apocalypse and all the prophecy, If you want to know the whole explanations of the apocalypse feel free to find this book beacuse the supply is very limited and almost no more today. The truth will seat you free,

    REMEMBER: "BE AFRAID TO KNOW IS SIN AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT"….

    Thank you for reading I hope you are all inlightined

  • Danny Bautista

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    If 333 is the number which indicate the divinity he who wants to put himself above God himself is refereed to by the number 666. 666 indicated once, that is to say, for the first time expresses the year 666.Six Hundred and Sixty Six. In this period of history, the Ant-Christ is manifested through the phenomenon of Islam, which directly denied the mystery of the divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ. Islamism, with its military force break loose everywhere, destroying all the ancient Christian community and invades Europe and it is only through my extra ordinary motherly intervention begged powerfully by holy father that’s if that not succeed in destroying Christianity completely.

  • Danny Bautista

    Missing Comments:

    If 333 is the number which indicate the divinity he who wants to put himself above God himself is refereed to by the number 666. 666 indicated once, that is to say, for the first time expresses the year 666.Six Hundred and Sixty Six. In this period of history, the Ant-Christ is manifested through the phenomenon of Islam, which directly denied the mystery of the divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ. Islamism, with its military force break loose everywhere, destroying all the ancient Christian community and invades Europe and it is only through my extra ordinary motherly intervention begged powerfully by holy father that’s if that not succeed in destroying Christianity completely.

  • Danny Bautista

    666 indicated twice, that is to say, for the second time, expresses the year 1332, thirteen hundred and thirty two. In this period of history the anti-Christ is manifested through the radical attack on faith of word parola of God. Through the philosopher who begin to give exclusive value to science and then to reason there is a gradual tendency to constitute human intelligence alone as the sole criterion of truth. There come to birth the great philosophical error which continues through the centuries down through your days.

  • Danny Bautista

    666 indicated twice, that is to say, for the second time, expresses the year 1332, thirteen hundred and thirty two. In this period of history the anti-Christ is manifested through the radical attack on faith of word parola of God. Through the philosopher who begin to give exclusive value to science and then to reason there is a gradual tendency to constitute human intelligence alone as the sole criterion of truth. There come to birth the great philosophical error which continues through the centuries down through your days.

  • Danny Bautista

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  • Danny Bautista

    666 indicated trice, that is to say for the third time, expressed the year 1998, nineteen hundred ninety eight. In this period of history, Freemasonry assisted by the ecclesiastical form will succeed in its great design; that of setting up an idol to put in the place of Christ and his church a false Christ and a false church, consequently the statue built in honor of the first beast to be adored by the all inhabitants of the earth and which seal with its mark all those who want to buy or sell is that the Anti-Christ. You have thus arrived at the peak of the purification, of the great tribulation and the apostasy. The apostasy will be as of then generalized because almost will follow the false Christ and the false church. Then the door will be open for the appearance of the man or the very person of the Antichrist.

  • Danny Bautista

    666 indicated trice, that is to say for the third time, expressed the year 1998, nineteen hundred ninety eight. In this period of history, Freemasonry assisted by the ecclesiastical form will succeed in its great design; that of setting up an idol to put in the place of Christ and his church a false Christ and a false church, consequently the statue built in honor of the first beast to be adored by the all inhabitants of the earth and which seal with its mark all those who want to buy or sell is that the Anti-Christ. You have thus arrived at the peak of the purification, of the great tribulation and the apostasy. The apostasy will be as of then generalized because almost will follow the false Christ and the false church. Then the door will be open for the appearance of the man or the very person of the Antichrist.

  • Danny Bautista

    Im very sorry my comments was not anymore in order, due to internet problems on my side I hope GOD will inlightined you the truth of my comments

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    Im very sorry my comments was not anymore in order, due to internet problems on my side I hope GOD will inlightined you the truth of my comments

  • Armando Rances

    I got your point Danny.

    But I find some of your statements mysterious like the term "Parola" and number 333. I understand how you added twice 666 to arrive 1332, and trice 666 to arrive 1998. I don’t see any relevance that the term, number, and those 2 years to our faith as Christians. The Anti-Christ’s had been following our Lord even during his time. Some of the Jewish authorities who are evil-hearted agitated their colleagues and the Jewish people against Jesus with false accusations. It is written in the New Testament that the same people spread disinformation campaign that Jesus did not raise to life, and that his apostles had stolen and hide the body of Jesus. During the time of the apostles, appears groups claiming to be Christians but teaching different message that of the apostles, like Cerinthus and Ebion denying the divinity, and the existence of Jesus Christ before his birth, adopted later to the doctrine of the Arian Christians who promoted the Unitarian Christianity. There even a group of Christians who claim to be descendants of Jesus' and Mary Magdalene's marriage. These are all the work of anti-Christ's whose purpose is to discredit Jesus Christ and make his church fail. The Gospel of John was written years after John published the book of Revelation to rebut Cerinthus' and the Ebionites' teachings. In the very 1st Chapter of the Gospel of John, he emphasized; "In the beginning there was already the word; and the word was with God; and the word was the same as God." In Verse 14, John wrote, "The word become a human being and, full of grace and truth, and lived among us. We saw his glory, the glory which he received as the Father's only son." This is one of our bases for the divinity of Jesus Christ. Other sources that affirmed the divinity of Jesus Christ is in Philippians 2:6–11, Isaiah 6:6–7, etc. You must be careful with the books you're reading. You have to challenge the content and the message they intended to propagate for there are many published materials even by popular scholars and writers whose intention is to deceive. That is why I always challenge posts that are deceiving in nature with facts that will rebut their made-up fictions. So, be careful. Lucifer or Satan is a short-cut term for evil thing, even when this two entity has nothing to do with it, but by an individual who did that evil thing by his own free will and by his evil nature; and since what he did is evil, it's Lucifer's or Satan's work.

    My advice, if you'll consider it, is "Stop worrying about the number 666 for it is attributed to the beast of Revelation 13 and 17 and the beast of Daniel 7. They are finished already before the end of the 4th century. The last instigator of Christian Persecution, Emperor Galerius, died of horrible disease in AD 311. His last protégé was defeated by Constantine the Great in AD 324. The Roman senate voted for Christ and condemned their primary god Jupiter in AD 388, deposing Satan in his pomerium in Rome, making Rome Christ's new dominion.

    666 will come no more. He is finished.

    The Christians of the future should be the ones that must be prepared, for they are the ones that are bound to encounter Armeddon; mentioned in Rev. 16:16. The ruler bearing the number 666 has nothing to do with it anymore; it’s of a completely different futuristic era. The three demons that came out of the Mouth of the dragon will cause it to happen: Rev 16:12–14. Try to learn Chaldean Numerology for curiosity’s sake so that you will know what compound number 16 implies in Numerology.

    We have the same worry about the Freemasonry. But it is not only the prevailing problem of Christianity today. Many Christian's faith nowadays is polluted by Fung Shui rituals to invite luck into their homes and business sites. Some Christian homes and stores are decorated with charms of pagan Chinese origin that uses dragon dance to attract luck. These practices are unchristian. Christians today tends to be materialistic that they close their eyes to the truth that decorating their houses with pagan charms of questionable origin is prohibited by the church. But still they take chances for luck even when those charms failed them many times already. Materialism is eating the spiritual well being of these Christians.

    If you have time, I advise you to view my two other post of the same 666 issue on this website:

    http://benbyerly.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/revelat

  • Armando Rances

    I got your point Danny.

    But I find some of your statements mysterious like the term "Parola" and number 333. I understand how you added twice 666 to arrive 1332, and trice 666 to arrive 1998. I don’t see any relevance that the term, number, and those 2 years to our faith as Christians. The Anti-Christ’s had been following our Lord even during his time. Some of the Jewish authorities who are evil-hearted agitated their colleagues and the Jewish people against Jesus with false accusations. It is written in the New Testament that the same people spread disinformation campaign that Jesus did not raise to life, and that his apostles had stolen and hide the body of Jesus. During the time of the apostles, appears groups claiming to be Christians but teaching different message that of the apostles, like Cerinthus and Ebion denying the divinity, and the existence of Jesus Christ before his birth, adopted later to the doctrine of the Arian Christians who promoted the Unitarian Christianity. There even a group of Christians who claim to be descendants of Jesus' and Mary Magdalene's marriage. These are all the work of anti-Christ's whose purpose is to discredit Jesus Christ and make his church fail. The Gospel of John was written years after John published the book of Revelation to rebut Cerinthus' and the Ebionites' teachings. In the very 1st Chapter of the Gospel of John, he emphasized; "In the beginning there was already the word; and the word was with God; and the word was the same as God." In Verse 14, John wrote, "The word become a human being and, full of grace and truth, and lived among us. We saw his glory, the glory which he received as the Father's only son." This is one of our bases for the divinity of Jesus Christ. Other sources that affirmed the divinity of Jesus Christ is in Philippians 2:6–11, Isaiah 6:6–7, etc. You must be careful with the books you're reading. You have to challenge the content and the message they intended to propagate for there are many published materials even by popular scholars and writers whose intention is to deceive. That is why I always challenge posts that are deceiving in nature with facts that will rebut their made-up fictions. So, be careful. Lucifer or Satan is a short-cut term for evil thing, even when this two entity has nothing to do with it, but by an individual who did that evil thing by his own free will and by his evil nature; and since what he did is evil, it's Lucifer's or Satan's work.

    My advice, if you'll consider it, is "Stop worrying about the number 666 for it is attributed to the beast of Revelation 13 and 17 and the beast of Daniel 7. They are finished already before the end of the 4th century. The last instigator of Christian Persecution, Emperor Galerius, died of horrible disease in AD 311. His last protégé was defeated by Constantine the Great in AD 324. The Roman senate voted for Christ and condemned their primary god Jupiter in AD 388, deposing Satan in his pomerium in Rome, making Rome Christ's new dominion.

    666 will come no more. He is finished.

    The Christians of the future should be the ones that must be prepared, for they are the ones that are bound to encounter Armeddon; mentioned in Rev. 16:16. The ruler bearing the number 666 has nothing to do with it anymore; it’s of a completely different futuristic era. The three demons that came out of the Mouth of the dragon will cause it to happen: Rev 16:12–14. Try to learn Chaldean Numerology for curiosity’s sake so that you will know what compound number 16 implies in Numerology.

    We have the same worry about the Freemasonry. But it is not only the prevailing problem of Christianity today. Many Christian's faith nowadays is polluted by Fung Shui rituals to invite luck into their homes and business sites. Some Christian homes and stores are decorated with charms of pagan Chinese origin that uses dragon dance to attract luck. These practices are unchristian. Christians today tends to be materialistic that they close their eyes to the truth that decorating their houses with pagan charms of questionable origin is prohibited by the church. But still they take chances for luck even when those charms failed them many times already. Materialism is eating the spiritual well being of these Christians.

    If you have time, I advise you to view my two other post of the same 666 issue on this website:

    http://benbyerly.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/revelat

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  • James Ratcliff

    Where is the love? Glad to see many professed Christian's(I say professed Christians because God is love and as a Christian we put on Christ in so much as we do as Jesus does out of love we follow Christ) as we look at the word of God(the Bible) there is other points that was shown to the Christians, 1) Matthew 23:9 And call no [man] your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Now there is a church that prefers to be called by that title "father" but let us not stop there. Before I continue I would like to propose a question who is qualified to interpret the Bible? Me, you, or a Pastor? How about the Bible interpret itself? For those that have the courage to let the Bible speak for itself let me share with you what the Bible says about trying to interpret the Bible with the last couple of verses

  • James Ratcliff

    Where is the love? Glad to see many professed Christian's(I say professed Christians because God is love and as a Christian we put on Christ in so much as we do as Jesus does out of love we follow Christ) as we look at the word of God(the Bible) there is other points that was shown to the Christians, 1) Matthew 23:9 And call no [man] your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Now there is a church that prefers to be called by that title "father" but let us not stop there. Before I continue I would like to propose a question who is qualified to interpret the Bible? Me, you, or a Pastor? How about the Bible interpret itself? For those that have the courage to let the Bible speak for itself let me share with you what the Bible says about trying to interpret the Bible with the last couple of verses

  • James Ratcliff

    Rev. 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book. So having read that I caution what we try to interpret. So as we read on let's see 2 Timothy 3:16All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

  • James Ratcliff

    Rev. 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book. So having read that I caution what we try to interpret. So as we read on let's see 2 Timothy 3:16All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

  • James Ratcliff

    And also 2 Peter 1:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 1:20Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost. God made sure that we would have the truth but as we study his words he will reveal the real truth if we look to the Bible. So who shall be saved but the saints and who are they? Rev 14 12 says Here is the patience of the Saints : Here ae they that Keep the commandments of God, and have the faith of Jesus. And who is Satan angry with?

  • James Ratcliff

    And also 2 Peter 1:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 1:20Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost. God made sure that we would have the truth but as we study his words he will reveal the real truth if we look to the Bible. So who shall be saved but the saints and who are they? Rev 14 12 says Here is the patience of the Saints : Here ae they that Keep the commandments of God, and have the faith of Jesus. And who is Satan angry with?

  • James Ratcliff

    Rev. 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the Woman and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus. It is apparent to me that there is someone that has issues with God's commandment enough to even Change it because if it has been changed the problem is solved but if there is somebody following what God said then Satan has to burn for the those that is following God's truth. Now what the Commandments is found throughout the Bible or the tables of stone Moses brought down is found in Exodus 20:3-17, Now if you don't read the Bible I'll pray that you do men died to put the word of God in your hands it word be a shame you didn't take the time to read it, for in it you will find eternal life,and truth, and people may have convinced you that you aren't smart enough to understand the Bible but Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.

  • James Ratcliff

    Rev. 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the Woman and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus. It is apparent to me that there is someone that has issues with God's commandment enough to even Change it because if it has been changed the problem is solved but if there is somebody following what God said then Satan has to burn for the those that is following God's truth. Now what the Commandments is found throughout the Bible or the tables of stone Moses brought down is found in Exodus 20:3-17, Now if you don't read the Bible I'll pray that you do men died to put the word of God in your hands it word be a shame you didn't take the time to read it, for in it you will find eternal life,and truth, and people may have convinced you that you aren't smart enough to understand the Bible but Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.

  • James Ratcliff

    Now if babes can understand the word of God so can you don't think the word of God is hidden from you the Holy Spirit help write the Scriptures, ask for the Holy Spirit will reveal the truth as God wants you to under stand his words. Rev. 17:9 And here [is] the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. The Vatican sit on seven mountains, even in the tme of Christ time, The papacy also teaches that if you go to the confessoinal and he would tell you how many Hail Mary's to have certain sins forgiven, also there is a place inbetween heaven and earth called Purgatory, it isn't found in the Bible, in fact the Bible teaches us that the dead is in the graves, but in Rev. 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, [who is] the faithful witness, [and] the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
    clearly John state's the first beggotten of the dead, So where is the rest of the dead. but in the graves.

  • James Ratcliff

    Now if babes can understand the word of God so can you don't think the word of God is hidden from you the Holy Spirit help write the Scriptures, ask for the Holy Spirit will reveal the truth as God wants you to under stand his words. Rev. 17:9 And here [is] the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. The Vatican sit on seven mountains, even in the tme of Christ time, The papacy also teaches that if you go to the confessoinal and he would tell you how many Hail Mary's to have certain sins forgiven, also there is a place inbetween heaven and earth called Purgatory, it isn't found in the Bible, in fact the Bible teaches us that the dead is in the graves, but in Rev. 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, [who is] the faithful witness, [and] the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
    clearly John state's the first beggotten of the dead, So where is the rest of the dead. but in the graves.

  • James Ratcliff

    Ecclesiastes 9:4 For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion. 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. 9:6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any [thing] that is done under the sun.
    What is ressurection about? 1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 4:17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

  • James Ratcliff

    Ecclesiastes 9:4 For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion. 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. 9:6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any [thing] that is done under the sun.
    What is ressurection about? 1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 4:17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

  • James Ratlciff

    Ezekiel 37:11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts. 37:12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. 37:13 And ye shall know that I [am] the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves, 37:14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken [it], and performed [it], saith the LORD.Prepare your hearts God would be pleased if we could reason together to come into the truth through love and compasion it is his way let it be ours also to bring truth to those in Darkness and share all scriptures as truth than just one point

  • James Ratlciff

    Ezekiel 37:11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts. 37:12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. 37:13 And ye shall know that I [am] the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves, 37:14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken [it], and performed [it], saith the LORD.Prepare your hearts God would be pleased if we could reason together to come into the truth through love and compasion it is his way let it be ours also to bring truth to those in Darkness and share all scriptures as truth than just one point

  • James Ratcliff

    in Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed [the righteousness] of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

  • James Ratcliff

    in Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed [the righteousness] of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

  • James Ratcliff

    If we have a Bible and the opportunity to study for ourselves we shall be liken to a man that built his house on a rock, but if we hope the truth will find us we will be liken to a man who built his house on sand. Simply put we need a strong foundation and to sit and argue is a tool that keeps us from uniting together and learn from each other that we each want to recieve the crown of life everlasting life, but while we critisize each other we waste time and not expressing his love but to glorify Satan and prove him right that we are undeserving so let us share love of Jesus that we may be called the sons and daughters of God that we serve Jesus best if we can study and find common ground and then Satan can burn for our sins. Jesus called us by name and at the cross he prayed for each of us(Father forgive them they no not what they do) So let us pray for each other that through Christ we all be overcomers and spend more time studing the word so that we will be found perfect in Gods eyes and forever in his presence.

  • James Ratcliff

    If we have a Bible and the opportunity to study for ourselves we shall be liken to a man that built his house on a rock, but if we hope the truth will find us we will be liken to a man who built his house on sand. Simply put we need a strong foundation and to sit and argue is a tool that keeps us from uniting together and learn from each other that we each want to recieve the crown of life everlasting life, but while we critisize each other we waste time and not expressing his love but to glorify Satan and prove him right that we are undeserving so let us share love of Jesus that we may be called the sons and daughters of God that we serve Jesus best if we can study and find common ground and then Satan can burn for our sins. Jesus called us by name and at the cross he prayed for each of us(Father forgive them they no not what they do) So let us pray for each other that through Christ we all be overcomers and spend more time studing the word so that we will be found perfect in Gods eyes and forever in his presence.

  • Armando Rances

    Let me correct a typographic error on the verses from Isaiah about the divinity of Jesus in my response to Danny Bautista that begins with a salutation, "I got your point Danny".

    "Other sources that affirmed the divinity of Jesus Christ is in Philippians 2:6–11, Isaiah 6:6–7, etc."

    It should be "Isaiah 9:6–7.

  • Armando Rances

    Let me correct a typographic error on the verses from Isaiah about the divinity of Jesus in my response to Danny Bautista that begins with a salutation, "I got your point Danny".

    "Other sources that affirmed the divinity of Jesus Christ is in Philippians 2:6–11, Isaiah 6:6–7, etc."

    It should be "Isaiah 9:6–7.

  • Armando Rances

    James Ratcliff, take a look at this statements of yours:

    “The Vatican sit on seven mountains, even in the tme of Christ time, The papacy also teaches that if you go to the confessoinal and he would tell you how many Hail Mary's to have certain sins forgiven, also there is a place inbetween heaven and earth called Purgatory, it isn't found in the Bible, in fact the Bible teaches us that the dead is in the graves, but in Rev. 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, [who is] the faithful witness, [and] the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,”

    My Answer,

    Sorry James, but it seems you're hallucinating and creating another fiction. The Vatican is a hill about two (2) miles away from the Seven Hills of Rome. In-between the Vatican hill and the Seven Hills of Rome is the plain of Mars (Campus Martius) and the Tiber River. It seems you are one of the victims of Satan propagating these lies against the Catholic Church. The papal authority to create rules, introduce and define new terms added to the doctrines of the church was based on the authority vested by Jesus Christ to Peter, his chosen leader of his church: "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; what you prohibit on earth will be prohibited in heaven, and what you permit on earth will be permitted in heaven." Matthew 16:19. The introduction of the term "Purgatory" for the refinement plane or place for the imprisoned spirits like the casualties in Noah's great flood, and there are hundreds if not thousands of similar incidents happened in the history of the earth, e.g. victims of wars, earthquakes, tsunamis, great floods, sea calamities, fires and most especially, victims of ignorance, is one of the prerogatives of the church hierarchy, and of the Pope, as Peter’s titular heir. We cannot be fooled by the doctrines of bigotry being maliciously propagated by the Sect where you belong that anything that is not written in the bible must not to be accepted. There are millions of facts and some of them are still to be discovered that are to be accepted truth if proven truth. No one has the monopoly to suppress the facts if there is a basis for that matter. The doctrine about purgatory introduced by the Catholic Church was based on the imprisoned spirits motioned in 1 Peter 3:19-20. In a civilized world, a term is accepted if it is understood or if it is explicitly defined. The imprisoned spirits defines purgatory. Anyone who refuses to acknowledge the definition has tolerance problem, and most probable to create their own different world. When Jesus speaks of; “Do not call anyone on earth a father, because you have only one father in heaven. Do not call anyone a teacher because you're all brothers and have only one teacher; or anyone be called leader because the messiah is your leader." Does this mean we have to take it literally? Do you think the absence of the applied principles of those three (3) terms—Teacher, Leader, Father—will not lead us to chaos and anarchy? Well, open your mind. Read carefully the whole Chapters of Matthew 21, 22 and 23. Feel and understand the overwhelming emotions prevailing during that time, especially that day when Jesus went to the temple early in the morning obviously without taking breakfast, curse a fig tree without a fruit to fill his hungry stomach. The Pharisees, the Sadducees and the Teachers of the law are peppering him questions that will trap Jesus so that they can arrest him if he fall into their trap. Jesus is so upset that he was triggered emotionally to strike back against these Teachers of the law, the Pharisees and the Sadducees, who loved to be called teachers of the law, leaders of Israel and father of their nation. Jesus boldly called them terrible hypocrites and blind guides. Jesus was just expressing his anger against these people who wants to kill him. If the use of the term father is forbidden, then, what term are we going to use for father, brother? Hahahaha… wake up James. Of course father is the term accepted for the principle of being a male parent, or the male progenitor of a tribe or clan. It can also so be applied as a honorific title for elders and council of elders. Only bigots will not tolerate that. Never consider Jesus a bigot because he is not. He is a wise, forgiving, and tolerant God. Seems you haven't read all my post in this site, or you don't really understand the relevance of the qualified historical facts that proved the fulfillment of prophesy which is the subject of this discussion.

  • Armando Rances

    James Ratcliff, take a look at this statements of yours:

    “The Vatican sit on seven mountains, even in the tme of Christ time, The papacy also teaches that if you go to the confessoinal and he would tell you how many Hail Mary's to have certain sins forgiven, also there is a place inbetween heaven and earth called Purgatory, it isn't found in the Bible, in fact the Bible teaches us that the dead is in the graves, but in Rev. 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, [who is] the faithful witness, [and] the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,”

    My Answer,

    Sorry James, but it seems you're hallucinating and creating another fiction. The Vatican is a hill about two (2) miles away from the Seven Hills of Rome. In-between the Vatican hill and the Seven Hills of Rome is the plain of Mars (Campus Martius) and the Tiber River. It seems you are one of the victims of Satan propagating these lies against the Catholic Church. The papal authority to create rules, introduce and define new terms added to the doctrines of the church was based on the authority vested by Jesus Christ to Peter, his chosen leader of his church: "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; what you prohibit on earth will be prohibited in heaven, and what you permit on earth will be permitted in heaven." Matthew 16:19. The introduction of the term "Purgatory" for the refinement plane or place for the imprisoned spirits like the casualties in Noah's great flood, and there are hundreds if not thousands of similar incidents happened in the history of the earth, e.g. victims of wars, earthquakes, tsunamis, great floods, sea calamities, fires and most especially, victims of ignorance, is one of the prerogatives of the church hierarchy, and of the Pope, as Peter’s titular heir. We cannot be fooled by the doctrines of bigotry being maliciously propagated by the Sect where you belong that anything that is not written in the bible must not to be accepted. There are millions of facts and some of them are still to be discovered that are to be accepted truth if proven truth. No one has the monopoly to suppress the facts if there is a basis for that matter. The doctrine about purgatory introduced by the Catholic Church was based on the imprisoned spirits motioned in 1 Peter 3:19-20. In a civilized world, a term is accepted if it is understood or if it is explicitly defined. The imprisoned spirits defines purgatory. Anyone who refuses to acknowledge the definition has tolerance problem, and most probable to create their own different world. When Jesus speaks of; “Do not call anyone on earth a father, because you have only one father in heaven. Do not call anyone a teacher because you're all brothers and have only one teacher; or anyone be called leader because the messiah is your leader." Does this mean we have to take it literally? Do you think the absence of the applied principles of those three (3) terms—Teacher, Leader, Father—will not lead us to chaos and anarchy? Well, open your mind. Read carefully the whole Chapters of Matthew 21, 22 and 23. Feel and understand the overwhelming emotions prevailing during that time, especially that day when Jesus went to the temple early in the morning obviously without taking breakfast, curse a fig tree without a fruit to fill his hungry stomach. The Pharisees, the Sadducees and the Teachers of the law are peppering him questions that will trap Jesus so that they can arrest him if he fall into their trap. Jesus is so upset that he was triggered emotionally to strike back against these Teachers of the law, the Pharisees and the Sadducees, who loved to be called teachers of the law, leaders of Israel and father of their nation. Jesus boldly called them terrible hypocrites and blind guides. Jesus was just expressing his anger against these people who wants to kill him. If the use of the term father is forbidden, then, what term are we going to use for father, brother? Hahahaha… wake up James. Of course father is the term accepted for the principle of being a male parent, or the male progenitor of a tribe or clan. It can also so be applied as a honorific title for elders and council of elders. Only bigots will not tolerate that. Never consider Jesus a bigot because he is not. He is a wise, forgiving, and tolerant God. Seems you haven't read all my post in this site, or you don't really understand the relevance of the qualified historical facts that proved the fulfillment of prophesy which is the subject of this discussion.

  • Armando Rances

    James, I also believe that the Bible contains messages inspired by the Holy Spirit. But you cannot take all that are written in the bible literally, word for word. There are contradictory verses found both in the Old Testament and New Testament depending on how the writer understands the message that he wrote. One of these found in Luke 23:39-43. Compare it to Matthew 27:44 & Mark 15:32. These two evangelists declared that the two bandits crucified with Jesus insulted him. Does this mean, when the other bandit who ask Jesus, “Remember me when you come as king” is also just insulting Jesus with that statement? And that when Jesus replied; “I promise you that today you will be in paradise with me.”; he was just responding nonsense to an insult hurled at him? Whose verses will you take Luke’s or Mark’s & Matthew’s? I will not divulge everything that I found because I’m a Christian, and I believe in Jesus Christ as the promised Savior and the fulfillment of the prophesies in Isaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel, etc., and it’s my duty to protect my church against further attack from the anti-Christ, flooding the internet with lies.

  • Armando Rances

    James, I also believe that the Bible contains messages inspired by the Holy Spirit. But you cannot take all that are written in the bible literally, word for word. There are contradictory verses found both in the Old Testament and New Testament depending on how the writer understands the message that he wrote. One of these found in Luke 23:39-43. Compare it to Matthew 27:44 & Mark 15:32. These two evangelists declared that the two bandits crucified with Jesus insulted him. Does this mean, when the other bandit who ask Jesus, “Remember me when you come as king” is also just insulting Jesus with that statement? And that when Jesus replied; “I promise you that today you will be in paradise with me.”; he was just responding nonsense to an insult hurled at him? Whose verses will you take Luke’s or Mark’s & Matthew’s? I will not divulge everything that I found because I’m a Christian, and I believe in Jesus Christ as the promised Savior and the fulfillment of the prophesies in Isaiah, Jeremiah, Daniel, etc., and it’s my duty to protect my church against further attack from the anti-Christ, flooding the internet with lies.

  • James Ratcliff

    If you are finding contradictions in reading the Bible then I must ask how much of the Bible is truth in your eyes Rev 22:18,19 clearly says not to add to these prophesy's or plagues would be added to those that do, and not to take away or your name will be taken away and if we aren't suppose to use all the scriptures as it is written in 2 Timothy 3:16 nor Believe 2 Peter1:19-21 (which is the First Pope by your accounting Wrote 1:19We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
    1:20Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
    1:21For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost.

  • James Ratcliff

    If you are finding contradictions in reading the Bible then I must ask how much of the Bible is truth in your eyes Rev 22:18,19 clearly says not to add to these prophesy's or plagues would be added to those that do, and not to take away or your name will be taken away and if we aren't suppose to use all the scriptures as it is written in 2 Timothy 3:16 nor Believe 2 Peter1:19-21 (which is the First Pope by your accounting Wrote 1:19We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
    1:20Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
    1:21For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost.

  • James Ratcliff

    Oh sorry two miles away I'm a rocks throw off Imagine that, You say that you've read the Book of Daniel, what do you make of the chapter 7:25And he shall speak [great] words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
    There is a time law that was Changed the fourth Commandment and it was changed by Pope constantine 4th Now the Catholic portrays the third commandment as the Sabbath commandment, oh yeah and removed Thou shalt not worship any graven image nor bow down to any statues, and split the tenth commandment. As for me and my house I will follow God Ecclesiastes 12:13Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this [is] the whole [duty] of man.
    12:14For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether [it be] good, or whether [it be] evil.

  • James Ratcliff

    Oh sorry two miles away I'm a rocks throw off Imagine that, You say that you've read the Book of Daniel, what do you make of the chapter 7:25And he shall speak [great] words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
    There is a time law that was Changed the fourth Commandment and it was changed by Pope constantine 4th Now the Catholic portrays the third commandment as the Sabbath commandment, oh yeah and removed Thou shalt not worship any graven image nor bow down to any statues, and split the tenth commandment. As for me and my house I will follow God Ecclesiastes 12:13Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this [is] the whole [duty] of man.
    12:14For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether [it be] good, or whether [it be] evil.

  • James Ratcliff

    Revelation 17:8The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
    17:9And here [is] the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
    clearly stated where else is there seven mountains or hills that a church is sitting even in the time of Christ if you cannot read the Bible and accept it as truth then someone between me and you, is having real issues in trusting God to reveal his truth, Jesus said my sheep hears my voice.

  • James Ratcliff

    Revelation 17:8The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
    17:9And here [is] the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
    clearly stated where else is there seven mountains or hills that a church is sitting even in the time of Christ if you cannot read the Bible and accept it as truth then someone between me and you, is having real issues in trusting God to reveal his truth, Jesus said my sheep hears my voice.

  • James Ratcliff

    It is written Matthew 5:17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
    5:18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
    5:19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
    5:20For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed [the righteousness] of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

  • James Ratcliff

    It is written Matthew 5:17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
    5:18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
    5:19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
    5:20For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed [the righteousness] of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

  • James Ratcliff

    1 John 2:3And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
    2:4He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
    2:5But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
    2:6He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
    2:7Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.

  • James Ratcliff

    1 John 2:3And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
    2:4He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
    2:5But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
    2:6He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
    2:7Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.

  • James Ratcliff

    Matthew 7:21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 7:25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 7:26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 7:27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

  • James Ratcliff

    Matthew 7:21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 7:24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 7:25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 7:26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 7:27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

  • James Ratcliff

    I'm Sorry Armando I sense you are sincere in your beliefs and trust that if you seek god with all your heart you will be brought into the light and as a follower of the true light Jesus Christ who was here from the foundations of the universe Isaiah 43:10 but I know that the Bible is the total truth and I can read it from the front to back without any contradictions and would encourage you to study with me that we both may be educated because Christ would not want us to argue over the things of the world but to edfy one another into truth. And no man converted me but every word the Bible lead me to the truth.

  • James Ratcliff

    I'm Sorry Armando I sense you are sincere in your beliefs and trust that if you seek god with all your heart you will be brought into the light and as a follower of the true light Jesus Christ who was here from the foundations of the universe Isaiah 43:10 but I know that the Bible is the total truth and I can read it from the front to back without any contradictions and would encourage you to study with me that we both may be educated because Christ would not want us to argue over the things of the world but to edfy one another into truth. And no man converted me but every word the Bible lead me to the truth.

  • James Ratcliff

    After reading Matthew not stick salt in an opened wound I curious how was you Baptized? seeing you stand strong in your beliefs but I assume by sprinklings but the Bible say Baptise which comes from the the Latin Baptiso which means by imersion to imerse and we are to be baptised with the Baptizim of Jesus How many ways does the papacy corrupt the teachings of Christ who we know that was sent as an example to us. I cannot convert any one but the holy spirit teaches us all truth and just want thank you for this site because it gives me a forum to allow others to read and understand the truth as it is written and as long as there is scripture there will be conversions and as long as there is prayer I have a way to talk to God of the heaven and earth and him only will I ask to cleanse me of my sins not to any one behind the closet the Bible forebids it.

  • James Ratcliff

    After reading Matthew not stick salt in an opened wound I curious how was you Baptized? seeing you stand strong in your beliefs but I assume by sprinklings but the Bible say Baptise which comes from the the Latin Baptiso which means by imersion to imerse and we are to be baptised with the Baptizim of Jesus How many ways does the papacy corrupt the teachings of Christ who we know that was sent as an example to us. I cannot convert any one but the holy spirit teaches us all truth and just want thank you for this site because it gives me a forum to allow others to read and understand the truth as it is written and as long as there is scripture there will be conversions and as long as there is prayer I have a way to talk to God of the heaven and earth and him only will I ask to cleanse me of my sins not to any one behind the closet the Bible forebids it.

  • James Ratcliff

    in response to the thief on the cross one said as Satan said "if " you are the son of God save thyself, but the other said "Lord" remember me when you come into your Kingdom, One believed he was the son of God the other doubted, it resembles the world today one believes the all the Bible and one doubted the Bible as the word of God but even in the book of James if we keep nine points of the law and break the 10th then we are Guilty of all same as the word of God if we don't believe in the power of God to reveal all truth the even by a book he told Peter that the if man refuse to spread the word the very rocks would cry out the message and why is it such a leap that God wisdom to ptu it in a book and how many times in over two thousand years men went to prove the Bible an error, and find kingdoms the Bible had written about. Jesus taught from the old testament, and that is good enough for me.

  • James Ratcliff

    in response to the thief on the cross one said as Satan said "if " you are the son of God save thyself, but the other said "Lord" remember me when you come into your Kingdom, One believed he was the son of God the other doubted, it resembles the world today one believes the all the Bible and one doubted the Bible as the word of God but even in the book of James if we keep nine points of the law and break the 10th then we are Guilty of all same as the word of God if we don't believe in the power of God to reveal all truth the even by a book he told Peter that the if man refuse to spread the word the very rocks would cry out the message and why is it such a leap that God wisdom to ptu it in a book and how many times in over two thousand years men went to prove the Bible an error, and find kingdoms the Bible had written about. Jesus taught from the old testament, and that is good enough for me.

  • http://www.facebook.com/arnoldgamboa Arnold Gamboa

    James, I think you had explained enough.

  • http://www.facebook.com/arnoldgamboa Arnold Gamboa

    James, I think you had explained enough.

  • Armando Rances

    James, I wonder if you are one of the many James Ratcliff names that appears on Facebook. Let me guess. You are that young big black guy from Lynchburg, VA, studying in Liberty University. Am I right?

  • Armando Rances

    James, I wonder if you are one of the many James Ratcliff names that appears on Facebook. Let me guess. You are that young big black guy from Lynchburg, VA, studying in Liberty University. Am I right?

  • http://www.facebook.com/marances07 Armando Rances

    Does John's prophesy about the doom of the "Harlot" and "Great Babylon" in Rev. 17:1-2 and Rev. 18:21-24 applies to Rome, or to the Goddess Roma (worshiped as god by the cult organized by the rulers of Ephesus and the Roman Asia to show their loyalty to Rome) and her magnificent city Ephesus where John was then the Bishop of the Church of that city and Ecclesiastical head to the seven (7) Churches of Asia?

    "Roma" was introduced by Rome to personify the divinity of the Roman State, the city of Rome and its system of government. But the rulers of the Koinon (league of cities) of Asia treated her as dea (goddess), organized cults for her worship to show their loyalty to Rome, and constructed "aras" (altars) to show off their enemies that they are under Rome's protection; therefore, using the goddess Roma in their immoral way to keep their status in their domain.

    After almost 2000 years, Rome is still intact, while the fate of the notoriously wealthy Roman capital city in Asia, Ephesus where "Roma" was then enthroned in her temple seems the fulfillment of these prophesies. The Goddess and her magnificent city sank to oblivion.

    Please check out this website and explore what I mean. The video with music will tour you to the then lost domain of the goddess Roma, Ephesus.
    http://www.kusadasi.biz/ephesus/intro.html

  • http://www.facebook.com/marances07 Armando Rances

    Does John's prophesy about the doom of the "Harlot" and "Great Babylon" in Rev. 17:1-2 and Rev. 18:21-24 applies to Rome, or to the Goddess Roma (worshiped as god by the cult organized by the rulers of Ephesus and the Roman Asia to show their loyalty to Rome) and her magnificent city Ephesus where John was then the Bishop of the Church of that city and Ecclesiastical head to the seven (7) Churches of Asia?

    "Roma" was introduced by Rome to personify the divinity of the Roman State, the city of Rome and its system of government. But the rulers of the Koinon (league of cities) of Asia treated her as dea (goddess), organized cults for her worship to show their loyalty to Rome, and constructed "aras" (altars) to show off their enemies that they are under Rome's protection; therefore, using the goddess Roma in their immoral way to keep their status in their domain.

    After almost 2000 years, Rome is still intact, while the fate of the notoriously wealthy Roman capital city in Asia, Ephesus where "Roma" was then enthroned in her temple seems the fulfillment of these prophesies. The Goddess and her magnificent city sank to oblivion.

    Please check out this website and explore what I mean. The video with music will tour you to the then lost domain of the goddess Roma, Ephesus.
    http://www.kusadasi.biz/ephesus/intro.html

  • Digvid7

    Sammy was, I believe, a Jesuit. So IMAO, he did NOT represent true Adventists.

  • Jonatas Moura

    In fact, all these prophecies of apocalypse has happened since the 1st century, as in this last chapter of his own book of Revelation, OPEN YOUR BIBLE:

    Revelation 22: 10: And he said to me: Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book, because the time is near.

    Revelation also says the same about the 2nd coming of Christ, which agrees with the prophecies in Luke 21 where Jesus spoke of a grim series of events that will precede his return, which he said would be in his generation:

    Luke 21, 32: Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away till all be fulfilled.

    Now go back to Revelation:

    The Apocalypse, being just a symbolic prophecy of the triumphant return of Jesus abounds in warnings about its imminence.

    Revelation 1:1 – Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants things which must shortly come to pass;
    Revelation 1:3 – Blessed is he who reads and blessed are those who hear the words of this prophecy and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is near.
    Revelation 3:11 – “I come quickly.”
    Revelation 22:12 – “Behold I come quickly.”
    Revelation 22:20 – He who testifies these things says, “Surely I come quickly.”
    Revelation 27:7 – “Behold I come quickly.”

  • Chrisluaya

    Are you sure? How sure are you? Give me an evidence?

  • SDA

    @597081911dcc0f301ae6d9c4b5070d91:disqus This is true. Samuele made a book “From Sabbath to Sunday”. This is COMPLETELY against the Bible and SDA doctrines.

  • Blessthefall_143

    i have seen many videos regarding the pope, that’s why i surfed on the internet to find proofs they were wrong… Sigh kids these days.

  • Anonymous

    Some one out-here has a problem? Samuelle Bacciochii was a jesuit infiltrated and the medal of gold he received as good student and reward was just a rubbish between himself and pope is just a rubbish only to impress and fake, and get your mind away.

    The prophecy concerning the number of the beast 666 as quoted on Revelation 13:17,18. it is made to prove is true and it is, OK?

    In order to sustain it decently and support the the prophecy you got to have lots of Biblical knowledge and support, and it happen that you have to know what motivates to be this way, 1st. of all to support the war in heaven where the devil lucifer was cast to the Earth and filled the whole world.

    Than to understand that GOD gave to humans the deliberate choice of making the right decision who to follow : GOD on HIS Holly Sabbath (4th. Commandment) or the devil that has the mark and his number 666 of the beast on the hand and forehead.

    Once those that to choose GOD for various reasons which in most cases are the general principles by following GOD sincerely and the true NATURAL LOVE* for HIM or because of fear as is quoted in the Bible in Proverbs 9:10, Ecclesiastes 12:13. etc.

    Once the people are gathered together is GOD’s choice to choose who he wants as he did with Abraham with all the promises, isn’t it? than come Isaac, than jacob and finally his 13 children of which only 12 are accountable as the tribes.

    One member as represents the fallen tribe of wrong worship with the name of : Issachar where comes the papacy because he instead to worship with the face to the altar he entered into the sanctuary which was facing the altar to the West and behind him was the East where the Sun rises Issachar was turning with the back at altar and GOD in the West of the sanctuary and was bowing to the Sun as the church in Rome was doing after the decree of emperor -constantine the great- in 321 AD.

    The new christians by the pattern of the emperor start doing what were doing in Old Testament, Issachar and now all others which fall short from the Glory of GOD from many other tribes for -europe- is full of them adding to the same spiritual principles of him, Issachar is not by himself for one sheep follow each other isn’t it?

    Has been given this crucial opportunity for people the reassess their spiritual values again as the Ezekiel prophecy are showing, beside the pilgrimage from -europe’s- reformation of going to USA and seventh-day adventist which fall within the prophecy to be the leaders of it they had fallen with all kind of rubbish as individual and corporate. 

    So what is going to happen now? all those that fall disgracefully shall be judged with capital punishment and those that didn’t shall join the catholics including all other non Sabbatical protestants to prove the wrong worship of Issachar from OT.

    I believe that Peter the 1st. pope was from the tribe of Issachar for GOD knows who is who even he was a fisherman.

    Going back to the subject of the number of the beast the Prophecy from Revelation 13:17,18 etc. it result that from the writing on pope’s crown of ceremonial celebration of taking the position the pope  is written : -vicarius fiili deii- in Roman numerals result to 666, what you got to understand that the inscription is in English.

    Well it is also in Greek, Hebrew, Arabic etc. which comes to the same number of : 666, it mens to be this way because of the prophecy as is for Issachar from OT and all other for GOD know what he dose, isn’t it after all?

    In the Book of Daniel the imagine of -nebuchadenzzar-  king of Babylon was made by the same figures dimensions of the statue of 6 6 6, all other tribes were bowing to the image with dimensions of 6 6 6 but Daniel and his friends NO, for the reason were thrown into the ferry furnance hot 7 times, isn’t it?

    See this number appears for other various circumstances to prove that they did not follow GOD and out of about 3.6 millions forming all tribes together violating the 2nd. Commandment of GOD for the reason GOD allowed to destroy Jerusalem on the 3th. attempt and to take the people into slavery for 70 years for did not keep the 10 Commandments anymore.

    And if they did not keep the Commandments anymore  were committing adultery, murder, steeling, laying, coveting, no Sabbath and making idols as they did not knew the difference like Daniel and his friends of not bowing to the imagine of the king  by violating the 2nd. Commandement, all has to do with the Commandments of GOD.

    Why do you think the number was with the figure 666?, all numbers has their NUMEROLOGY and GOD made to be this way and this way remain for the devil, simple for other numbers fulfil something else into HIS NUMEROLOGY.

    This is the origin of this number for false worship, for instead to worship the CREATOR Issachar worships the creation which is the Sun, for GOD charge the people with false worship all over the Bible and He Say : ” for you worship gods of wood and stones instead to worship the Living GOD”. Sun is creation is not GOD, it is true that you can get advantages of it but it doesn’t means it is GOD, TODAY IN THE WORLD PEOPLE CONTINUE TO WORSHIP THE SUN.

    For whosoever worship creation fall by violating the principles of the 2nd. Commandment which deals with idolatry, isn’t it? and this Commandment has special promises to be fulfil as good on people which are in His presence or not even they are in his presence into the closed sanctuary as building, church or out  for those do not attend.

    So the pope is 666. And he is not from the tribe of Issachar he is from a different tribe altogether, but why he is serving as pope and cross the tribes, it is because of his personal poor spirituality. Can he become a good spiritual being not to belong to the tribe of Issachar in worship? yes if he has an ardent desire of following truly and fully GOD the Creator.

    I hope my explanation conclude all doughs concerning this issue.

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