“Pino Ako” a rip off?

If there’s one evening show that got me hooked on television, it would be ABS-CBN’s Pinoy Big Brother. I’m not going to talk about the show, because if you live anywhere in the Philippines, and if you’re a Pinoy living abroad with TFC, I know you know what I’m talking about.

I’m going to talk about their hit song “Pinoy Ako”. I’m not a fan of bands — oh well, there are some that I like. Side A, because I grew up with them. South Border, because of their RnB/Jazzy sound. Barbie and Kitchie Nadal, not only because both are cute, but also both are great Christian artists that are fast becoming good examples for the youth (I don’t really like the “rock” sound, but because of United Live, I’ve come to appreciate it).

Orange and Lemons, on the other hand, is a newbie band. “Pinoy Ako” became their instant ship to stardom. Why not? The song is really good. It can pass as a national anthem. It makes you proud as a Filipino inspite of the shameful things that are happening in the country today. As the chorus goes:

Pinoy ikaw ay pinoy
Ipakita sa mundo
Kung ano ang kaya mo
Ibang-iba ang pinoy
Wag kang matatakot
Ipagmalaki mo pinoy ako
Pinoy tayo

On the other hand, there’s a controversy going on right now. Orange and Lemons are being accused of ripping off — that is, copying the song from a British new wave band, The Care. I’ve stumbled upon this blog entry.

You can download the mp3’s of both songs below:
Pinoy Ako – Orange and Lemons
Chandelier – The Care

Download the files and evaluate for your self. Here’s mine.

Chord patterns – almost a copy
Drum beats – almost the same, the only difference is that The Care’s drum progression is new wavish — oh well, they’re a New Wave band.
Overall accompaniment – konti lang ang similarity. Orange and Lemon’s version is “accoustic” while The Care’s is, as I mentioned, New Wave.
Stanzas’ melodies – very similar.
Chorus – very different
Coda – similar

After hearing both songs, I’m really tempted to *judge* the pinoy group for copying the song.

On the other hand, in my opinion, artists do get inspirations from other artists, especially from popular ones. In this case, the composer of “Pinoy Ako” consciously or unconsiously patterned the melody of the stanzas to that of The Care’s. BUT, the chorus is completely different. I think, and this is just me, that made the difference. What people really remember on most songs is the chorus. It’s like the heart and soul of every song.

I’m not a music expert. There may be some visitors here that qualify as such. You can probably share with us your expert’s opinion. As far as I’m concerned, Orange and Lemons did a great job with their interpretation, the composer of the song might have slipped one way or the other, but all in all, the song is a blessing to the Filipinos.

What say you?

  • Bernard Gabon

    Di ko pa man alam ang issue na eto… nagdownload ako ng mga hot song base on this list from Radyo Natin-Hot FM http://www.dennislazo.com/supercount/hotfm/playlist/2005.12.19.RRLhPI9wN0qLpeWvP1sOALOaJ/ . I downloaded all copy of songs in that list via limewire p2p. nong pliney ko ung THE CARE – CHANDELIERS… umiba kaagad ang takbo ng isisp ko. sa intro yong guitar… hoy pbb theme to! wow! may english version na pala. Pero when i read topics bout the care, ayon foreign band pala. So nasabi ko na ang galing talaga ng pinoy! (sa pangagaya)

  • Bernard Gabon

    Di ko pa man alam ang issue na eto… nagdownload ako ng mga hot song base on this list from Radyo Natin-Hot FM http://www.dennislazo.com/supercount/hotfm/playlist/2005.12.19.RRLhPI9wN0qLpeWvP1sOALOaJ/ . I downloaded all copy of songs in that list via limewire p2p. nong pliney ko ung THE CARE – CHANDELIERS… umiba kaagad ang takbo ng isisp ko. sa intro yong guitar… hoy pbb theme to! wow! may english version na pala. Pero when i read topics bout the care, ayon foreign band pala. So nasabi ko na ang galing talaga ng pinoy! (sa pangagaya)

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    oranges and lemons should be crucified!

  • http://www.20six.co.uk/teeth37990 deo

    oranges and lemons should be crucified!

  • http://nostrad.blogspot.com Ekai

    thanks for the DL of “Chandeliers”– my father wanted to judge it for himself. ^_^ I think it’d be awful if O & L just copied this song– I suppose they should just credit The Care?…

  • http://nostrad.blogspot.com Ekai

    thanks for the DL of “Chandeliers”– my father wanted to judge it for himself. ^_^ I think it’d be awful if O & L just copied this song– I suppose they should just credit The Care?…

  • Chris

    O&L are criminals! Have they heard of intellectual rights?! Yes, lets crucify them. I read an article in manila bulletin and they admitted to Giselle Roque that they did copy the song and were very unapologetic about it. You want a “pirated” song to become the Filipino’s anthem? Don’t insult the Filipinos! It sad that these creeps O&L can think they can pull one on the Pinoys. Do they think were stupid? Even their image is a rip-off from The Beatles. They friggin’ unoriginal. McCoy Fundales you’re not John Lennon.

  • Chris

    O&L are criminals! Have they heard of intellectual rights?! Yes, lets crucify them. I read an article in manila bulletin and they admitted to Giselle Roque that they did copy the song and were very unapologetic about it. You want a “pirated” song to become the Filipino’s anthem? Don’t insult the Filipinos! It sad that these creeps O&L can think they can pull one on the Pinoys. Do they think were stupid? Even their image is a rip-off from The Beatles. They friggin’ unoriginal. McCoy Fundales you’re not John Lennon.

  • Mike M

    Scary! Pinoys are in jeopardy…From Fake credit cards to infrigement of copyrights..
    They should have at least admitted that they DID pattern it from “Chandeliers by The Care.” Agreed, Lyrics didn’t match their personality. Thus, even brough us all to fame of fakes.

  • Mike M

    Scary! Pinoys are in jeopardy…From Fake credit cards to infrigement of copyrights..
    They should have at least admitted that they DID pattern it from “Chandeliers by The Care.” Agreed, Lyrics didn’t match their personality. Thus, even brough us all to fame of fakes.

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  • justwatching

    An original nursery rhymes by a 5 year old toddler is much much better and deserve respect for its originality than a recordbreaking song which was copied. Its a shame to our race and it stinks

  • justwatching

    An original nursery rhymes by a 5 year old toddler is much much better and deserve respect for its originality than a recordbreaking song which was copied. Its a shame to our race and it stinks

  • jd

    alright. i know i am a bit late for this topic but i want to get my word out about this. well i downloaded the care’s song “Chandelier” and compared to to O&L’s “pinoy ako”, i have to admit that they do sound similiar and maybe the only difference of these two songs were the style and lyrics. this does not bother me at all because this happens everywhere most artist start out like this, they need something to help them get started. i am aswell an music artist at work, im trying to get myself recognize, my first couple of songs i took some part off other songs but did anyone really care?.. noo, well it hink no one did. but yea the song “pinoy ako” really touches us filipinos in america, it really makes us miss our home land, me and my friends think so atleast. so yea you guys are way to harsh and O&L sure they copied the beat and changed it only a little but they made it their thing they finished it up and added their own style to it and that made the difference. its not that beat that makes the song, its the lyrics.

    jd, 16 years old,California US

  • jd

    alright. i know i am a bit late for this topic but i want to get my word out about this. well i downloaded the care’s song “Chandelier” and compared to to O&L’s “pinoy ako”, i have to admit that they do sound similiar and maybe the only difference of these two songs were the style and lyrics. this does not bother me at all because this happens everywhere most artist start out like this, they need something to help them get started. i am aswell an music artist at work, im trying to get myself recognize, my first couple of songs i took some part off other songs but did anyone really care?.. noo, well it hink no one did. but yea the song “pinoy ako” really touches us filipinos in america, it really makes us miss our home land, me and my friends think so atleast. so yea you guys are way to harsh and O&L sure they copied the beat and changed it only a little but they made it their thing they finished it up and added their own style to it and that made the difference. its not that beat that makes the song, its the lyrics.

    jd, 16 years old,California US

  • Kerwin

    People start to care once you are making money of their sweat.

    Sure, people like Diddy, Kanye etc etc “sample” tracks from the yesteryears. ONLY difference is Diddy and other high profile artists (with the exception of VANILLA ICE) give credit where credit is due. O & L, you guys suck. The least you could do is acknowledge the fact that you did copy the song – and not just being “inspired” by it. Know something, we could get MJ’s BAD, “tweak” it a bit, use acoustic instruments, change the lyrics (foreign language would be best) and give it a new title – and pass it off as my own. EXACT SAME THING!

  • Kerwin

    People start to care once you are making money of their sweat.

    Sure, people like Diddy, Kanye etc etc “sample” tracks from the yesteryears. ONLY difference is Diddy and other high profile artists (with the exception of VANILLA ICE) give credit where credit is due. O & L, you guys suck. The least you could do is acknowledge the fact that you did copy the song – and not just being “inspired” by it. Know something, we could get MJ’s BAD, “tweak” it a bit, use acoustic instruments, change the lyrics (foreign language would be best) and give it a new title – and pass it off as my own. EXACT SAME THING!

  • Broudie

    I’m sure you guys have watched the movie Jurassic Park. Remember the scene where Ian Malcolm (played by Jeff Goldblum) was arguing with billionaire John Hammond on the dangers of putting up the park? Well, Malcolm said that what Jurassic Park scientists actually did was to stand on the shoulders of geniuses and took the next step – to clone the dinos – then take all the credit for themselves.

    This is exactly what O&L did. They had to come up with a song, had the right message to say to the listening public (for how hard is it to come up with an inspirational message to a country beleaguered with all sorts of problems?), but probably didn’t have the melody/rhythm to go along. So what to do?, what to do?, what to do? They dug in their library of old new wave albums and look for a song that sounds good but didn’t become very popular in their time. Dagdag-bawas here and there and Lo and Behold!….. A million Peso “original” masterpiece by O&L.

    That’s not very inspiring if you ask me. If anything, it only lends more credence to the image of a Pinoy as “gaya-gaya” (or even to some extent, a “thief”). So let’s not get hurt when people of other countries think we’re mediocre. Deep down, we know they’re right.

  • Broudie

    I’m sure you guys have watched the movie Jurassic Park. Remember the scene where Ian Malcolm (played by Jeff Goldblum) was arguing with billionaire John Hammond on the dangers of putting up the park? Well, Malcolm said that what Jurassic Park scientists actually did was to stand on the shoulders of geniuses and took the next step – to clone the dinos – then take all the credit for themselves.

    This is exactly what O&L did. They had to come up with a song, had the right message to say to the listening public (for how hard is it to come up with an inspirational message to a country beleaguered with all sorts of problems?), but probably didn’t have the melody/rhythm to go along. So what to do?, what to do?, what to do? They dug in their library of old new wave albums and look for a song that sounds good but didn’t become very popular in their time. Dagdag-bawas here and there and Lo and Behold!….. A million Peso “original” masterpiece by O&L.

    That’s not very inspiring if you ask me. If anything, it only lends more credence to the image of a Pinoy as “gaya-gaya” (or even to some extent, a “thief”). So let’s not get hurt when people of other countries think we’re mediocre. Deep down, we know they’re right.

  • Yoshie12321

    Wag po naten kalimutan ng kinopyan ng ERASERHEADS (ALAPAAP) ung KANTA NG PALE FOUNTAIN na REACH.. i thinkg rip-off din un

  • Yoshie12321

    Wag po naten kalimutan ng kinopyan ng ERASERHEADS (ALAPAAP) ung KANTA NG PALE FOUNTAIN na REACH.. i thinkg rip-off din un

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